rsea Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Hi, We live in Brisbane and have concerns about the future for our dog after the recent events on the Gold Coast. After reading the Brisbane City Council website in regards to dangerous dogs, it states: "The following breeds of dogs, including those that substantially meet the description of these breeds, are banned in Brisbane: American pit-bull terrier" My concern is we purchased our puppy as a Staffordshire Bull Terrier without any papers. We have no proof, or even know ourselves how pure his bloodline is. To look at he could be accused of being crossed with an APBT. We can't prove differently. My question is, are people who own non-breeder 'pit bull type' (I use the term in a broad sense to describe dogs that the general public might mistake and classify as a 'pit bull') concerned that their dogs will be accused of being part APBT and be destroyed? What are people doing if they are concerned? We have spent so much time training our dog to be a well behaved and have no fear of him ever being aggressive in anyway. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iffykharma Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 rsea, if you are really worried, I would try to seek professional advice from a local government law specialist. The Queensland Law Society may be able to direct you to individual practitioners. It may cost a bit, but at least you would be getting well-informed advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeckoTree Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Those concerned will at least look into or have on hand the resources available of dog ID the process of declaration and appeal etc etc and be prepared. Also they'ed probably have an action plan ready. Out of the thousands and thousands of staffies and types I dont think a big percentage of owners would be worrying themselves though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jackij Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 The things that councils know, but not alot of people who own staffies is that the staffy was originally bred from the American Pit Bull and Crossed with another breed such as Bull mastiff or rottie to get a stronger and more intelligent dog for fighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 The things that councils know, but not alot of people who own staffies is that the staffy was originally bred from the American Pit Bull and Crossed with another breed such as Bull mastiff or rottie to get a stronger and more intelligent dog for fighting :rofl: :thumbsup: This is the weirdest interpretation of Staffordshire Bull Terrier history I have ever seen. Jackij, do some research using reputable sources before uttering such total nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsea Posted April 16, 2010 Author Share Posted April 16, 2010 The things that councils know, but not alot of people who own staffies is that the staffy was originally bred from the American Pit Bull and Crossed with another breed such as Bull mastiff or rottie to get a stronger and more intelligent dog for fighting everyone else knows something you don't jackij thanks for your imput btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MolassesLass Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 (edited) The Bullmastiff was developed as a breed in the late 19th century whereas the Staffy in the 17th. Both breeds have Bull Terrier Bulldog in their history but this is nothing like what you've suggested jackij. Do you have a source for your statement? How did the Staffordshier Bull Terrier become a smaller breed than the Pitbull if it was developed by crossing the Pitbull with much larger breeds (such as the Bullmastiff or Rottweiler)? Edited April 16, 2010 by molasseslass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 The Bullmastiff was developed as a breed in the late 19th century whereas the Staffy in the 17th. Both breeds have Bull Terrier in their history but this is nothing like what you've suggested jackij. Think you want to edit this to read Bulldog - the Bull Terrier is even more modern than the Bullmastiff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 (edited) Gremlins Edited April 16, 2010 by Sandra777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoL Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 The things that councils know, but not alot of people who own staffies is that the staffy was originally bred from the American Pit Bull and Crossed with another breed such as Bull mastiff or rottie to get a stronger and more intelligent dog for fighting Are you for real?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MolassesLass Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 The Bullmastiff was developed as a breed in the late 19th century whereas the Staffy in the 17th. Both breeds have Bull Terrier in their history but this is nothing like what you've suggested jackij. Think you want to edit this to read Bulldog - the Bull Terrier is even more modern than the Bullmastiff... Crap! Yes Sandra - I meant Bulldog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H.M Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 hehehe I love fake accounts , I wonder who jackij belongs to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whippets Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 It's a well known fact that when Xenu landed on earth he bought with him a very perculiar looking 4 legged creature. Xenu was the founder of Scientology and the 4 legged creature became known as the Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MolassesLass Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sandra777 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 It's a well known fact that when Xenu landed on earth he bought with him a very perculiar looking 4 legged creature. Xenu was the founder of Scientology and the 4 legged creature became known as the Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Who you callin'peculiar lookin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin19801 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 The SBT, AST and APBT are one and the same breed. Only Australia and NZ claim they are different as do people who limit their research to ANKC pseudo-histories. If your SBT is the longer legged SBT then it is at risk unless you can prove the parantage through DNA testing. You can't prove breed but it may come back as a Collie which can't hurt. Most PB-types killed throughout Australia are actually SBT crosses. The latest SC case may put a dampener on things for a while, then the whole sorry BSL fiasco will start again. Your dog will then be an AST cross which the law now states is a APBT cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin19801 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 It's a well known fact that when Xenu landed on earth he bought with him a very perculiar looking 4 legged creature. Xenu was the founder of Scientology and the 4 legged creature became known as the Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Apart from supporting BSL and not knowing the difference between bought and brought, a common problem, attacking peoples religious beliefs says more about the attacker than the believers. Ever read the bible? Make fun of that as well. Hate speech like the BSL supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H.M Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 in your "considered opinion" of course, Jackij a friend of yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 The SBT, AST and APBT are one and the same breed. Only Australia and NZ claim they are different as do people who limit their research to ANKC pseudo-histories. Oh dear, more loonies on the loose. What consititutes a breed? IMO breeding excluding outside bloodlines for a period of time sufficient to establish a specific type/size/temperament/characteristics. IMO the SBT qualifies as a breed on this basis alone. All canine registries (including the APBT recognising UKC) consider the SBT a separate and distinctive breed all over the world, not just in Australasia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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