Wondai Dogs To Be Desexed For Adoption

[iffykharma]

Will update with link when I find it...

Doggone hectic - RSPCA gears up to desex 401 seized puppies

Brian Williams

14 April 2010

The Courier-Mail

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THE RSPCA has started the biggest single animal desexing job in its history, with operations beginning this week on 401 dogs from a puppy farm.

Veterinarians are so busy with the desexing, the RSPCA has moved its rural mobile desexing unit back to Brisbane to help out.

Most of the dogs will be offered for re-housing two to three days after they are desexed.

The RSPCA became overloaded overnight in September last year, when Biosecurity Queensland raided a puppy farm at Wondai in the South Burnett.

The dogs were moved to the RSPCA shelter at Fairfield in Brisbane and within days their number had grown by 30 as bitches whelped. Vets found a further 40 dogs were pregnant.

Many of the dogs had ear and eye problems, hook worm, ticks and fleas. The nails on some had never been clipped, although they were well fed.

Some had to be put down because of health problems.

Their arrival prompted an overwhelming response by foster carers, who have been looking after the dogs ever since.

The puppy farm owners have since agreed to the dogs' forfeiture, allowing desexing and re-homing to begin.

Because the dogs are spread far and wide, people seeking a pet can fill out an expression of interest on the RSPCA website from today, rather than calling at the shelter.

Staff will try to place animals directly from foster homes.

Although Biosecurity has been paying about $3000 a day for the animals' care, the influx had strained RSPCA resources.

RSPCA spokesman Michael Beatty said the issue had become a logistical puzzle for staff.

``For starters, we've never had such a huge desexing job,'' Mr Beatty said.

``It's a nightmare and will be going on for months. The mobile unit is normally used for cats but we have brought it back to handle smaller dogs. As well, we have all the other animals to desex and find homes for.''

Puppy farm breeds range from miniature dachshunds to poodles, chihuahuas and labradors.

Foster carers have elected to keep about 100 dogs while a further 100 have special needs, such as a lack of confidence, bad eyes, teeth, hips and skin.

The RSPCA is picking up the bill for desexing.

[Angel Dust]

GREAT for the desexing, it is about time that the RSPCA used the money donated to them for the animals, instead of admin costs......

Wonderful, now they can spend their millions on the ones the money was intended for......the animals....

But, they will still lead you to believe that this is costing them a fortune, they will re-coupe most of the money in adoption fees, don't let them

deceive people again...... they will get on the band wagon and ask people for donations.......just so they can keep the coffers full.

[Kissindra]

Those that don't pass temp testing this time round are going to be given every opportunity with the aim towards finding them forever homes down the track. RSPCA are hoping to get a few more experienced dog people on board who are familiar with/willing to rehabilitating shy dogs, particularly for the small fluffies.

It will be under the direction of behaviourists and with full support, they just need people willing to take on these special little guys and help them blossom.

Please get in contact with the vollunteer co-ordinators if you are able to help out.

[spyda62]

Wow...401 dogs to be desexed from one rescue...that is alot!

Good to hear they will be working with behaviourists to help fix some of those poor little mutts.

[sandgrubber]

Wondai. Wondia in which state? If it's in QLD , no help here. If it's Wondai WA, that's just down the street and I might have some way to help.

PLEASE mention what state when posting on DOL. Lots of states have places with the same name.

[WreckitWhippet]

I hope they are going to keep them in care longer than two or three days after desexing.

[Nekhbet]

Most of the dogs will be offered for re-housing two to three days after they are desexed.

looks like its snip em and ship em

[auto]

Sandgrubber. it is Qld.

[Kissindra]

what would the reasoning be behind keeping them longer after de-sex?

de-sex is a pretty routine op. with no intensely complex aftercare. Adopters are given an aftercare sheet and checkup/stiches removed consult.

This is common practise for pounds who de-sex prior to sale, pounds who offer a de-sex program aftersale don't spend more than 24hrs if that before going back to their new owners I believe? Most puppy buyers take their dogs in for de-sex with no prior experience of what aftercare is required, it isn't a difficult task so I'm not getting why this would be frowned on?

[RPMgirl]

I've put my name down to adopt a medium sized pup. We're also getting a Lab puppy in 8 weeks time. I wanted at least one of our new members to be a Rescue/rehome.

Cheers

Liz N

[RPMgirl]

I've put my name down to adopt a medium sized pup. We're also getting a Lab puppy in 8 weeks time. I wanted at least one of our new members to be a Rescue/rehome.

Cheers

Liz N

[poodlefan]

I've put my name down to adopt a medium sized pup. We're also getting a Lab puppy in 8 weeks time. I wanted at least one of our new members to be a Rescue/rehome.

Cheers

Liz N

I'm not sure this is a great idea. One pup is a lot of work. Two pups, one of which may not have been well socialised or that may have some 'baggage' is going to be even more work.

I thought you were going to wait for at least 6 months between pups? Personally, I'd be making it more like 6 years. Two young dogs can be a lot of fun. Two old dogs can be a lot of

A size imbalance between pups could lead to the smaller one being injured too.

[WreckitWhippet]

what would the reasoning be behind keeping them longer after de-sex?

de-sex is a pretty routine op. with no intensely complex aftercare. Adopters are given an aftercare sheet and checkup/stiches removed consult.

This is common practise for pounds who de-sex prior to sale, pounds who offer a de-sex program aftersale don't spend more than 24hrs if that before going back to their new owners I believe? Most puppy buyers take their dogs in for de-sex with no prior experience of what aftercare is required, it isn't a difficult task so I'm not getting why this would be frowned on?

If a breeder desexed a bitch and shipped it out two days later, there'd be hell to pay for that but because it's the RSPCA it doesn't matter does it.

It's called making sure the animal is in a fit and healthy state and in my opinion that means that the stitches are out and the animal is ready to slot straight into the new owners home. It doesn't include lumping the after care on the new owner.

[iffykharma]

what would the reasoning be behind keeping them longer after de-sex?

de-sex is a pretty routine op. with no intensely complex aftercare. Adopters are given an aftercare sheet and checkup/stiches removed consult.

This is common practise for pounds who de-sex prior to sale, pounds who offer a de-sex program aftersale don't spend more than 24hrs if that before going back to their new owners I believe? Most puppy buyers take their dogs in for de-sex with no prior experience of what aftercare is required, it isn't a difficult task so I'm not getting why this would be frowned on?

If a breeder desexed a bitch and shipped it out two days later, there'd be hell to pay for that but because it's the RSPCA it doesn't matter does it.

It's called making sure the animal is in a fit and healthy state and in my opinion that means that the stitches are out and the animal is ready to slot straight into the new owners home. It doesn't include lumping the after care on the new owner.

I picked up my feline foster failure two days after she was desexed. She came with 6 weeks pet insurance and the date when I had to take her back to the shelter for stitches to be removed. In the end I arranged with them that I would have her done at my vet and as they know me that was fine. I was also able to take her back to the shelter for any vet treatment she may have required during that period if I felt I needed to.

I also have a friend who adopted a 6month old pup who was just getting over a mild case of mange. She had to take the pup back to the shelter for regularly scheduled injections. Would it have been better that he stay in the shelter environment for the additional weeks it would have taken for the mange to clear up - or is it better that he was in a home environment with another dog and plenty of human company? I know it's not quite the same thing, but really isn't it about doing the best thing for the individual animals?

All of the animals made available in the shelter are in the adoption pens usually the day after desexing. Many, especially puppies and kittens, are in new homes within days.

Where would they be able to place these animals post desex if they were to keep them for 10 days after surgery? They have trouble enough finding foster homes for those that aren't able to be desexed for whatever reason. Not to be antagonistic, but what would you suggest they do with these animals until their stitches are out?

Edited April 14, 2010 by iffykharma

[mita]

RSPCA are hoping to get a few more experienced dog people on board who are familiar with/willing to rehabilitating shy dogs, particularly for the small fluffies.

It will be under the direction of behaviourists and with full support, they just need people willing to take on these special little guys and help them blossom.

Please get in contact with the vollunteer co-ordinators if you are able to help out.

Thanks for that info, Kissindra.

[WreckitWhippet]

They could have left the puppies with the foster carers for starters, to be weaned and then brought in for a day to be desexed and returned to the carers.

The RSPCA couldn't even get that right, they had pups come back into a shelter to be weaned at a time when they were at the greatest risk of contracting disease, then shipped off to another foster place.

I'm fed up with the double standards of the RSPCA. They are all gun-ho when it comes to screwing over the breeders in this country but can do as they please and heaven help those who dare speak out or judge them.

[mita]

Veterinarians are so busy with the desexing, the RSPCA has moved its rural mobile desexing unit back to Brisbane to help out....

Most of the dogs will be offered for re-housing two to three days after they are desexed....

Their arrival prompted an overwhelming response by foster carers, who have been looking after the dogs ever since.

Staff will try to place animals directly from foster homes.

The mobile unit is normally used for cats but we have brought it back to handle smaller dogs.

I like that they'll also be using the RSPCA mobile desexing unit to deal with the smaller dogs, directly from their foster-home.

I also like the way efforts will be made to rehome the dogs directly from their foster-home.

I'm wondering if an arrangement has been made with local vets to remove stitches (if not already covered by the mobile van). Logan Pound very sensibly does that. Good idea in that it introduces the new owner & pet to their nearest vet.

Edited April 14, 2010 by mita

[Guest Ams]

They could have left the puppies with the foster carers for starters, to be weaned and then brought in for a day to be desexed and returned to the carers.

The RSPCA couldn't even get that right, they had pups come back into a shelter to be weaned at a time when they were at the greatest risk of contracting disease, then shipped off to another foster place.

I'm fed up with the double standards of the RSPCA. They are all gun-ho when it comes to screwing over the breeders in this country but can do as they please and heaven help those who dare speak out or judge them.

SBT123 I think you have misunderstood a previous post. The puppies were brought back in when able to be weaned and the litters separated and then sent back out with other foster carers. This was done as expeditiously as possible, some puppies did spend a small amount of time in the shelter as hand overs from one foster parent to another can not always occur on the same day. These puppies did not spend extended time in the shelter simply for the purpose of weaning. As previously mentioned they were also kept in a separate area of the shelter used purely for these puppies so any change of them contracting disease was kept to an absolute minimum. None of these puppies were desexed then. The desexing is what is happening now that they are the legal property of the RSPCA.

When you take your dog or pup to your vet for desex they do the op and you take it home that evening. The RSPCA keeps the animals in overnight for observation and then releases them the next day. I can't really see any difference.

The arrangement for these animals now is they will be brought in for desex (like any other family pet) then sent back to their carer (if the carer agrees) until they are adopted. If their current carer does not wish to have the dog returned to them after desex (and a few may make this choice) then a new carer will no doubt be sought for the dog. Is this not kinder for the dogs than bringing them in, desexing them and then stuffing them into crowded kennels waiting for them to be rehomed through the shelter's normal process?

[iffykharma]

And I apologise for adding to the confusion in this case too as I'd forgotten about the animals being rehomed directly from foster home wherever possible. However, it doesn't change the fact that the normal practice is for animals of all ages to be desexed and placed the next day in an adoption pen in the shelter.

[Kissindra]

what would the reasoning be behind keeping them longer after de-sex?

de-sex is a pretty routine op. with no intensely complex aftercare. Adopters are given an aftercare sheet and checkup/stiches removed consult.

This is common practise for pounds who de-sex prior to sale, pounds who offer a de-sex program aftersale don't spend more than 24hrs if that before going back to their new owners I believe? Most puppy buyers take their dogs in for de-sex with no prior experience of what aftercare is required, it isn't a difficult task so I'm not getting why this would be frowned on?

If a breeder desexed a bitch and shipped it out two days later, there'd be hell to pay for that but because it's the RSPCA it doesn't matter does it.

It's called making sure the animal is in a fit and healthy state and in my opinion that means that the stitches are out and the animal is ready to slot straight into the new owners home. It doesn't include lumping the after care on the new owner.

I don't see any issue in a breeder rehoming a dog with stiches, could be an issue if flights were involved or a long road trip interstate ect. but for a local/localish area rehome I wouldn't see that as a problem.

Perhaps breeder rehomes and smaller scale rescues generally opt to make sure stiches are all done because it's just easier than trying to make co-ordinate vets, that and when you are dealing with smaller numbers it's not exactly a logistical nightmare - different kettle of fish when it's an organisation rehoming hundreds of animals that have on site vet facilities and links statewide to vets in the community.

Aftercare isn't exactly a burden, it's all simple stuff - certainly doesn't meet the criteria of "not in a fit and healthy state" if everything has gone normally IMO