Vca Agm Tonight 7.30pm Kcc Park

[wayrod]

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.....as for the meeting I do find it interesting that two resolutions that were not Constitutional changes on the agenda for the agm had a member from Management Committee as mover or seconder...what could members read from that!!!!

BTW: Any new Life Members!

I suppose what they like.

Did you not attend the meeting????

Unfortunately not! Work took priority!

Yes it is a shame when your daily life is more important then your hobby which means somtimes you just can't get to things.

My daily life is also my hobby but with only 24 hours in a day and seven days in a week you can not always be in two places at once!

Edited April 10, 2010 by wayrod

[AmandaJ]

OK I'm SA and believe me we have our own issues - but are your VIC ppl aware of the recent changes to the incorporated associations act?

http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/CA256EB5000...on+Act+changes~

Your ask for it - they must provide it!

I, as do so many, work. Getting to everything is difficult (family will always be prime) - and juggling only goes so far. The "system" needs to progress so we can all be involved with-in our personal time frames.

[Blakbelgian]

They have abolished the position of PUBLIC OFFICER in accordance with the Business Affairs.

The secretary does all the jobs related to this position.

BB

[Guest CaptainCourageous]

We need next year's AGM to be on a Saturday, as 7:30 pm - 12:01 am midweek is unacceptable.

We need all movers of motions to be diligent enough to make sure they are legitimate and well worded. The movers and seconders must be prepared to speak appropriately to the motions, rather than treat their proposals as trifling thoughts.

We need people to become more familiar with meeting procedure, ANKC rules, VCA rules, VCA regulations and Nick Renton's book.

We need financial reports to add up. The VCA budget has been rejected because it didn't add up - I don't know where things stand in that circumstance.

We need to have CoM members talk to the figures rather than the auditors. One auditor gave his opinions as to how the organisation should be managed. As far as I am aware he isn't a VCA member. I regarded the comment as impertinent.

... it is possible that that the annual reporting be printed as a supplement and inserted with the magazine at the mailing house, thereby meeting the requirements of going out in the March gazette.

Now members will be voting of existing members without knowing if they have been doing a good job or if the financial status of the organisation is good or bad. To have an AGM some five months after the end of the financial year is really not good enough! ...

That's why I voted against it.

There was also a motion about joint owners having to both sign for each transaction for their dog. It was explained that this didn't include show entries, but I couldn't work out how the words as they stood could possibly exempt show entry forms.

The motion for judges' training at Cranbourne didn't have the word "simultaneously" in it this year, and was therefore supportable though invalid.

I'm not sure what was causing those motions to be deemed invalid, but I guess that you need to have a motion that speciifies alterations to existing regulations to avoid the unfavourable legal opinion. Also, don't move a motion that is contingent on another motion passing, in case the order of motions is not what you expect when the agenda is released.

I saw and heard much that was unsatisfactory and was sleep-deprived for the next two days.

CC

Edited April 11, 2010 by CaptainCourageous

[experiencedfun]

I cannot understand why 50% of lectures cannot be done at KCC and 50% at Bulla and then the following year alternate. That way aspirants could attend 100% over 2 years at the closest venue. Its not rocket science.......OR IS IT.

[TessnSean]

As this has been passed for all intensive purposes then centres should be available for our country members, say Ballarat, Bendigo, Wangaratta, Warrnambool.

I'm sorry, I don't have answers to your other questions, but to be fair, should we not then have centers set up for our members in Morwell, Sale, Bairnsdale?? I think the only way to make it fair for all is to share it around in the two locations.

It wasn't passed as the resolution was invalid. The votes and comments will be sent to the Management Committee to take on board, thats all that happend, it's possible that nothing will be changed.

That's what I mean! Centres throughout the state! all to benefit the members. Currently the library is in one location, museum in one location, office in one location. Maybe it is time for a complete overhaul of the services and how the services are provided to members. Afterall we are Dogs Victoria! members spread throughout the State; not just in one or two regions.

By bringing and improving the access to services to members and the general public can only help lift our profile and increase our membership base, afterall it was when we took our services (shows) away from country agricultural societies and fringe suburbs in the late 1970s early 1980s that our membership numbers started to decline.

.....as for the meeting I do find it interesting that two resolutions that were not Constitutional changes on the agenda for the agm had a member from Management Committee as mover or seconder...what could members read from that!!!!

BTW: Any new Life Members!

While I think the suggestion of Centres throughout the State would be on the top of the list in an ideal world, it is not really practical. These centres would need to be staffed and the premises leased. I know of two information places that open only 3 days per week, employ one person part time, a casual replacement for leave etc and with wages, rent, insurance, superannuation, insurance, workers comp, public liability, equipment the cheapest costs $75,000. Hence the reason both are being closed. When a big org like the AFL can not do it, how can something like Vic Dogs afford it?

[SwaY]

As Chris mentioned on the night, the VCA used to work more efficiently back in the days,

when we had less staff (it think it was 5-7?) and 30,000 members.

We now have 10 workers and under 10,000 members and yet things still take forever to get done.

[Blakbelgian]

I phoned the VCA today to get a cost quote to put our club header int he back of VicDog.

The receptionist could not tell me & Janet is away and a second person I was onto could not tell me.

So I went searching and found an invoice for it.

Poor result from the office.

BB

[experiencedfun]

Sway along with less staff and more members we also had far less rules and regs and far MORE volunteer involvement and only one venue to support/maintain.

The dog world has changed so much in the 40+ years I have been involved. It used to be more social, less restrictive....much like society itself I suppose. In most two people households both partners are working full time and have less time to assist by volunteering in their chosen hobby. There is also the other aspect where people expect everything and do nothing.

A dog section at an ag society would actually be run by a committee not just one person in constant battle with the rest of the society for equal rights for our hobby.

A complaint in at the office could be dealt with, without the side issues of VCAT, lawyers and courts. This made it far more efficient. Things could be handled straight away without the need for the involvement of a whole committee or two and then being held up by outside forces. I feel that this also solved issues rather than the time lag creating bigger issues along the way.

Sorry this post ended up being way off topic.