MavericksMission Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Maverick has broken through 2 halti's now... He broke through one when he was at the groomers (after I told them not to leave it on him) & Then he broke through one tonight when he saw someone he didn't like the look of and he started going crazy, jumping around. He walks well on the halti, although he is a very, very strong dog and he still likes to try a pull! (but we are working on it) Does anyone have any suggestions on what is good product for strong pulling dogs? I have tried check chains, but they get caught in his long hair and either cause discomfort and don't work effectively. Flat collars are a big no, no! he is way to strong! Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Maverick has broken through 2 halti's now...He broke through one when he was at the groomers (after I told them not to leave it on him) & Then he broke through one tonight when he saw someone he didn't like the look of and he started going crazy, jumping around. He walks well on the halti, although he is a very, very strong dog and he still likes to try a pull! (but we are working on it) Does anyone have any suggestions on what is good product for strong pulling dogs? I have tried check chains, but they get caught in his long hair and either cause discomfort and don't work effectively. Flat collars are a big no, no! he is way to strong! Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! xx I think you better ask in the trainers section. Have you been taught how to use a halti or check chain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle. Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 The Easy Walk harness is great. My dogs don't like head halters, but the harness is comfortable for them and really works to stop the pulling. I am using ours on Dusty at the moment to curb her "get there first" mentality and I walk Benson at the same time on a martingale. The Easy Walk harness has the lead connection at the front on their chest and it works by turning them towards you when they surge ahead. When Dusty is by my side, she gets praised for being in the right place, when she pulls ahead it's just a quick, light tug on the leash and she's back where she should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MavericksMission Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 Thank You I Will Post In There! Yes I have been shown how to use both Halti and Check Chain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 If I had a dog who was willing to pull on a halti hard enough to break it, I would not use a halti. As far as tools go, your options are front-attaching harness or prong collar. My preference is to use a double-ended "balance leash" and have the other end attached to a flat collar. This way you can walk your dog on the flat collar, but have the tool for leverage when required (depending in where you hold the leash). Some training for his reactive behaviour would also be beneficial, possibly the most important thing that this episode has highlighted. Depending on where you are in Vic there are several trainers here who are competent with this sort of training using modern methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MavericksMission Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 Thanks GayleK! I will look into the Easy Walk harness! I have used normal harnesses... but they make the pulling worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 (edited) I agree with Lilli - best option is to have some one on one lessons with a trainer. There are quite a few good ones in VIC, some are members here on DOL. Teaching your dog to walk on a loose leash is about the method more so than it is about the tool, a dog can learn to pull on any tool from head collars to check chains to prongs if you aren't using them with the right training program. I would also be wary using a head collar if he can pull on it hard enough to break, imagine the damage that could be doing to his neck! Edited April 2, 2010 by huski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Use a dominant dog collar. Its a slip collar like a check chain but nylon, and sits high on the neck around the throat area. before you use this though please email me or get a trainer who knows how to use them to show you. You should be able to fix his pulling/lunging in one day with this collar and no harsh yanking required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MavericksMission Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 If I had a dog who was willing to pull on a halti hard enough to break it, I would not use a halti.As far as tools go, your options are front-attaching harness or prong collar. My preference is to use a double-ended "balance leash" and have the other end attached to a flat collar. This way you can walk your dog on the flat collar, but have the tool for leverage when required (depending in where you hold the leash). Some training for his reactive behaviour would also be beneficial, possibly the most important thing that this episode has highlighted. Depending on where you are in Vic there are several trainers here who are competent with this sort of training using modern methods. I have done some work with dog trainers. He pulled through the halti tonight when he saw this lady who was looking threatening who was coming towards me waving her hands in the air, He pulled backwards, sort of like bucking on the lead and then he surged forward. I like the the sound of the easy walk harness and the "balance lead", So I will definitely give both a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 (edited) A good trainer might be of some benefit. Personally I wouldn't be putting a halti on a dog that pulls through it - you could end up doing a lot of damage to his neck! There are fur-saver check chains for long haired dogs (which will not get tangles in his coat) or you could try a martingale ;) ETA, everyone else beat me to it lol. I guess that's what happens when you write half the post, disappear to find the kids and do a quick training session with the dog before hitting the send button Edited April 2, 2010 by SecretKei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MavericksMission Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 mm Back to the trainers we go! Thanks guys!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILK Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 I tried a halti, didn't work. Tried a Easy Walk Harness, didn't work. The Easy Walk Harness worked at first, but he became immuned to it. Ended up with very extensive check chain training which worked. I now use a martingale and he is a great walker. I still need to correct him occasionally, but he knows when he is going to pull. I always know when he is about to pull because I notice that I get a glance out of his periferal vision Try a fur-saver check chain like Secret-Kai suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Paws Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Use a dominant dog collar. Its a slip collar like a check chain but nylon, and sits high on the neck around the throat area. before you use this though please email me or get a trainer who knows how to use them to show you. You should be able to fix his pulling/lunging in one day with this collar and no harsh yanking required. Does anyone in Aust sell the Dominant dog collars? I have one from Leerburg but it really needs to be a touch shorter but i don't want to pay the huge shipping prices from the US for just one collar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcoat Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 (edited) Use a dominant dog collar. Its a slip collar like a check chain but nylon, and sits high on the neck around the throat area. before you use this though please email me or get a trainer who knows how to use them to show you. You should be able to fix his pulling/lunging in one day with this collar and no harsh yanking required. Does anyone in Aust sell the Dominant dog collars? I have one from Leerburg but it really needs to be a touch shorter but i don't want to pay the huge shipping prices from the US for just one collar I wondered that myself too??? I have seen them advertised much cheaper than Leerburg's but still from US supply. How did you find the Dominant dog collar 4 Paws???. I used a prong on my GSD initially. Edited April 2, 2010 by Longcoat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuddleDuck Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Definately worth seeing a trainer. I have some friends with dogs that pull like crazy and they all swear by the sporn harness. Apparently its brilliant for dogs that pull. I've not used one, but one of the dogs is large and slightly nuts and it makes a world of difference for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 I have used the Ezy Dog leash extensions. They have a clip at one end and a ring at the other. They are plaited nylon (more woven) so are very strong as well as slippign freely even on long haired dogs. DD collars are meant to sit high around the throat and not to be on a long leash anyway so you have control over where it sits. They're under $10 each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Paws Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 I have used the Ezy Dog leash extensions. They have a clip at one end and a ring at the other. They are plaited nylon (more woven) so are very strong as well as slippign freely even on long haired dogs. DD collars are meant to sit high around the throat and not to be on a long leash anyway so you have control over where it sits. They're under $10 each so you don't have a floating ring than? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcoat Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 I have used the Ezy Dog leash extensions. They have a clip at one end and a ring at the other. They are plaited nylon (more woven) so are very strong as well as slippign freely even on long haired dogs. DD collars are meant to sit high around the throat and not to be on a long leash anyway so you have control over where it sits. They're under $10 each so you don't have a floating ring than? You would still need a floating ring and be the right length to prevent it slipping down the neck to act the same as a Leerburg DD collar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 you can have a ring put onto the collar or go to spotlight and slip one on yourself Its all I could get in Oz so I used what I could at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voloclydes Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Definately worth seeing a trainer.I have some friends with dogs that pull like crazy and they all swear by the sporn harness. Apparently its brilliant for dogs that pull. I've not used one, but one of the dogs is large and slightly nuts and it makes a world of difference for him does anyone know where to get one of the sporn collars? leo ate his halti..... which worked well. but if i have to replace it a lady sugested it.... as better for leo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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