schnauzer Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 As for the PIAA - from their website: "Formed in 1979 (as PIJAC) the Pet Industry Association is owned and run by its members, who believe in professionalism and high standards. The Mission of the Pet Industry Association is; through education, excellence, enterprise and integrity; to represent members and lead the pet industry." Maybe the members of PIAA should come and meet some of the dogs we have rescued from puppy farms/ex pet shop purchases. Pet shops are supplied by puppy famers - not registered breeders. Steve Austin needs to rethink his ethics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhok Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Seeing how I don't have access to a Tv with reception is there anyway for me to view the program? Thanks in advance --Lhok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Is anyone else surprised by Steve Austin's statement for selling pups in pet stores? I didn't realise he was on the oodle side of the fence. Er... no. He is the president of PIAA after all. They have a policy on selling animals in pet stores and that is it's fine as long as the animals are in good health and well cared for. I'd be pretty peeved if I were that Banksia Park fellow. The spin on the segment certainly wasn't in his favour. Did anyone notice they showed his dogs while the animal rights lady was saying how cruel she thought it was and that they were all the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labsrule Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 What really got up my nose with Steve Austin, apart from the fact that he supports the puppy farmers . was that he disputes the fact that dogs brought from pet stores end up in shelters and he was quite adamant in his denial about this problem . This from a guy who has been in the dog world for many years Well I think he shot his credibility to pieces tonight and has probably lost a lot of respect and hopefully business :D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoofnHoof Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 And there goes any ounce of possible respect I may have had for Steve Austin. Will not be giving any recommendations for his kennels. Wish they had of had a registered breeder on talking about the good they do, with health testing etc, to explain how the good ones do it right. That's a good idea, I think someone from here should write into the 7:30 report offering to be interviewed about ethical dog breeding, offer a tour of their kennels to show what it should be like, it would be a great counter story to the PF one and showcase the ideal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuddleDuck Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Are Banksia park and ACA the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystiqview Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I am also thoroughly disgusted in Steve Austin for supporting puppy farms. Even the so called well run ones. He buys pups from registered or purebed breders. There goes any respect. Banksia park. Well disgusted there. 300 breeding females. OMG!! Don't believe for one minute those females are bred twice every 18 months. If it has a uterus. Why not use it for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russkie30 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) Yeh I agree with Steve Austin I can't believe he is supporting Puppy Farmers, tosser!!! The pictures of the goldies in the kennel. Goldies are a breed that do not like being separated from people as I would say with most breeds. You cannot tell me the likes of that Banksia Puppy Farm carry out heridatary testing on all those dogs. I just hope people watching think twice on where to purchase their next puppy. That's a good idea, I think someone from here should write into the 7:30 report offering to be interviewed about ethical dog breeding, offer a tour of their kennels to show what it should be like, it would be a great counter story to the PF one and showcase the ideal great idea Edited March 30, 2010 by Russkie30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 What really got up my nose with Steve Austin, apart from the fact that he supports the puppy farmers . was that he disputes the fact that dogs brought from pet stores end up in shelters and he was quite adamant in his denial about this problem . This from a guy who has been in the dog world for many years Well I think he shot his credibility to pieces tonight and has probably lost a lot of respect and hopefully business :D . The point about this claim is that it doesn't matter whether one single puppy sold in a pet shop ever ends up in a shelter. It is how that puppy is bred that is the major issue, as I see it. As someone said: if it has a uterus breed it. The animals suffer - that is the point that should be being stressed. At least "hybrid vigour" was raised. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 steve austin was a d%ck , met him once, he commented on my gsp ( it was actually a wei ). i agree about the kennels bred twice in 18 months, yeah right and notice they had some dogs looking happy playing behind him while he talked, bet they don't get to all get out normally i wish they had mentioned money, that normally hits home, how much are you paying for a mutt, compared to what you would pay for a purebred which has been health tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sch18490 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) I completely agree about Banksia Park, Mystiqview. That guy just left me shaking my head. An ethical puppy farm that has 300 breeding females and breeds oodles and other crosses? Not likely. I too was surprised by Steve Austin's comments. I had read a lot of good things about him prior to this. Though overall I think it was a good report and has hopefully made the public a bit more aware of puppy farming. Wish they had of had a registered breeder on talking about the good they do, with health testing etc, to explain how the good ones do it right. I would have liked to have seen that too. Edited March 30, 2010 by sch18490 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitka Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Aww I missed it, is there a link to watch it? I couldnt find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Are Banksia park and ACA the same? Yes. Information Information Information Information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shells Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/ You should be able to stream it from the website when it comes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystiqview Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 It was interesting with regards to that twice in 18 month comment. I am sure I read on PIAA websit a year or so ago they had no issue with bitches producing every season. I wonder if that guy said that comment to try and sound like ethical ankc breeders who DO have to abide by that rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwynwen Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 should be up soon on ... (i missed it too) http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/news Seeing how I don't have access to a Tv with reception is there anyway for me to view the program? Aww I missed it, is there a link to watch it? I couldnt find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prydenjoy Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I agree that it's not whether the pups end up in shelters or not, it's the emotional wellbeing of these pups that concerns me most. Instead of being raised in a family environment for much of their critical socialisation period they are pissing in their beds with little to no human interaction, bred from parents who have undoubtedly not had any form of temperament testing, not to mention health testing. There were a lot of "breeds" in the story that I couldn't even tell if they were supposed to be purebreds of some kind or mongrels, breeding for type and temperament just goes out the window. Steve Austin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~JessyBee~ Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 And there goes any ounce of possible respect I may have had for Steve Austin. Will not be giving any recommendations for his kennels. Wish they had of had a registered breeder on talking about the good they do, with health testing etc, to explain how the good ones do it right. That is a great idea Stormie So hopefully, it will be quite shocking for general viewers who had no idea about puppy farms etc... That was my first thought too - for us who know what a hideous 'industry' it is it does not surprise, but for all those who thought those fluffy puppies come from the land of sunshine and roses - I hope it was a shock. I wish it was better, but i also think it is better than not having the issue out ther at all. Steve Austin he missed the big issue didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) Is anyone else surprised by Steve Austin's statement for selling pups in pet stores? I didn't realise he was on the oodle side of the fence. Er... no. He is the president of PIAA after all. They have a policy on selling animals in pet stores and that is it's fine as long as the animals are in good health and well cared for. I'd be pretty peeved if I were that Banksia Park fellow. The spin on the segment certainly wasn't in his favour. Did anyone notice they showed his dogs while the animal rights lady was saying how cruel she thought it was and that they were all the same? Well, maybe it was me, but I couldn't see much difference between the puppy farm south of Sydney the RSPCA raided, and Banksia Park. The dogs on the first PF seemed to be in good condition, all groomed or clipped off, healthy looking bouncy pups. The premises were not as new (and the fridge deserves a book of it's own!!), Don't think I am approving. The whole concept is wrong - dogs are not agricultural animals to be kept on"farms". I agree with Debra Tranta on that. If the entire premise is wrong, nothing makes it right. Nothing. And good on the woman who had the pf and saw the light. Edited March 30, 2010 by Jed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Is anyone else surprised by Steve Austin's statement for selling pups in pet stores? I didn't realise he was on the oodle side of the fence. Er... no. He is the president of PIAA after all. They have a policy on selling animals in pet stores and that is it's fine as long as the animals are in good health and well cared for. I'd be pretty peeved if I were that Banksia Park fellow. The spin on the segment certainly wasn't in his favour. Did anyone notice they showed his dogs while the animal rights lady was saying how cruel she thought it was and that they were all the same? So how should the Banksia Park fellow be shown? He was shown, in the middle of his puppy farm. Understand this - no puppy farms are good places. People that run them are morally bankrupt - what decent person makes money from the misery of dogs? Anyone with a shred of decency will see him for exactly what he is - you don't need Debra Tranter to explain - don't you see the cruelty? I've got an ex puppy farm dog here, probably dumped as she's 8 and started breeding dead or disabled pups. She's been bred from pretty continually, according to my vet. There are inherent behavioural problems with such dogs because of the conditions/situation they are kept in. Apart from the vile physical condition they are often in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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