Shmurps Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Had a conversation with a lady and we got onto dogs. She has cavaliers and shows them. Anyway she told me she was buying a harness and had to get a bigger size for her dog to grow into it. I said do you have a puppy and she says no he is 18 months old. So I say I thought they were adults around 12 months. She says he is at show weight and can put weight on when he becomes a pet. Then I ask, well wouldn't he be ideal weight now? because you see lots of over weight cavaliers that snort and puff from being over weight? She then told me what would I know because she has been breeding for over 30 years So my question is, is there a show weight and pet weight? Sorry it's not punctuated properly, curser not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:ange: Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I guess she might 'let her dogs go' once they retire from the ring? I know I would want my dogs to be ideal weight regardless if they were show dogs or pet dogs. I condition my male to make sre he has enough muscle before going in a ring, but that's not really to do with weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I don't show my dogs, but I like to have all my dogs, whether competition dogs or not (only one is competing) to be their ideal weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretel Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 My 8 year old looks as good as she did in her show days If she wasn't desexed she'd be fine in the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Sounds more like a case of, can't be bothered keeping up the work, when the dog retires. I think it's a bit of a cop out and certainly not in the best interests of the dogs. Our dogs that are shown are kept in the same condition as our dogs that have retired, that being lean and healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Honestly I wouldn't have thought so for a breed like a CKCS, it's not like they're shown in a stripped state or anything I guess if you have a breed which gains weight easily and which isn't particuarly active it is easy for a dog which is just lounging around the house to gain some weight, but not a good thing IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumabaar Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Show weight for my dogs is nearly a kilo more than what I would keep them at if I wasn't doing anything with them (is pet weight) which is nearly a kilo more than what I have them at to do flyball and other dog sports.... I have stopped entering them when I am competing in dog sports because they don't even get looked at lol. Amusing when you think that they are mention to be working dogs and should be shown at the same weight they work at!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopperlodge Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 My guys are always kept "fit" and well muscled but the ones I show are usually 1-2kgs heavier than the ones retired..... basically I am the opposite to this lady, I drop them down when they are retired.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mas1981 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I know for labradors when they show them some of them carry more weight than active pet dogs. I want my lab to do agility one day so I watch his weight very carefully, someone commented on my 'skinny' dog at the beach last weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayreovi Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Show weight for my dogs is nearly a kilo more than what I would keep them at if I wasn't doing anything with them (is pet weight) which is nearly a kilo more than what I have them at to do flyball and other dog sports.... I have stopped entering them when I am competing in dog sports because they don't even get looked at lol. Amusing when you think that they are mention to be working dogs and should be shown at the same weight they work at!! Yep! I agree, I couldn't show one of my dogs when we were competing in sports basically every second weekend. Darcys perfect weight and fitness for sports made him look underweight and malnourished in dog shows! Plus it's not good when we are directly after Labs, I had my first show last weekend in a few years and comparing some of the gundogs weights to the ones I saw at a Gundog retrieving training day I went to recently, there is no chance any of them could cope with a run to a dummy and back without being exhausted!! Don't care if I offend anyone but some dogs in the show rings aren't heavy boned as people have tried to convince me but are fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumabaar Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Show weight for my dogs is nearly a kilo more than what I would keep them at if I wasn't doing anything with them (is pet weight) which is nearly a kilo more than what I have them at to do flyball and other dog sports.... I have stopped entering them when I am competing in dog sports because they don't even get looked at lol. Amusing when you think that they are mention to be working dogs and should be shown at the same weight they work at!! Yep! I agree, I couldn't show one of my dogs when we were competing in sports basically every second weekend. Darcys perfect weight and fitness for sports made him look underweight and malnourished in dog shows! Plus it's not good when we are directly after Labs, I had my first show last weekend in a few years and comparing some of the gundogs weights to the ones I saw at a Gundog retrieving training day I went to recently, there is no chance any of them could cope with a run to a dummy and back without being exhausted!! Don't care if I offend anyone but some dogs in the show rings aren't heavy boned as people have tried to convince me but are fat. +1!!!!!!!!!! There is a HUGE diference between boning and fat like um I can't feel your dogs ribs LOL!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 She sounds like a moron....people should try and keep their dogs in ideal condition at all times, pet or show dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Dog owners are dog owners,show people/dog sports or the likes doesnt equate to a better owner BUT working in the dog industry the # of fat dogs at shows is very small,i deal with obese dogs daily . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkehre Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 (edited) I find quite the opposite with me and my breed. I find for all breeds shows (not specialties) that I have to put a tiny bit more weight on them than I would have on them when not showing. I like them super fit and lean, but find that most all breeds judges like a little but more cover on Rottis... not all but most. Letting your dog get fat just cause it is a pet is neglect IMO. Sorry if that seems a bit abrupt, but I call it as I see it. Having said that, I know many many people that simply cannot seem to manage to keep there dogs carrying the correct. They cannot stop over feeding, and will not exercise them enough. Sort of sad I think. Edited March 20, 2010 by dyzney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 I know for labradors when they show them some of them carry more weight than active pet dogs. I want my lab to do agility one day so I watch his weight very carefully, someone commented on my 'skinny' dog at the beach last weekend. I've never actually had anyone in the general public call my Labs "skinny" - but that is because they think they are Lab X's because they are not the usual fat tub of lards they see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Should also add we board alot of Labs & never had an obese one BUT lots of varying body shape . Some very leggy,some more stocky built & even though not fat would look fat . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 I was always having this discussion with the person who showed my dog. She wanted him heavier and I wanted him lighter for dog sports! I call it show weight verses agility weight! At the moment he is ideal weight but he is prone to putting on weight and would be a table top in a pet home...he loves his tucker!!! Show weight for my dogs is nearly a kilo more than what I would keep them at if I wasn't doing anything with them (is pet weight) which is nearly a kilo more than what I have them at to do flyball and other dog sports.... I have stopped entering them when I am competing in dog sports because they don't even get looked at lol. Amusing when you think that they are mention to be working dogs and should be shown at the same weight they work at!! Yep! I agree, I couldn't show one of my dogs when we were competing in sports basically every second weekend. Darcys perfect weight and fitness for sports made him look underweight and malnourished in dog shows! Plus it's not good when we are directly after Labs, I had my first show last weekend in a few years and comparing some of the gundogs weights to the ones I saw at a Gundog retrieving training day I went to recently, there is no chance any of them could cope with a run to a dummy and back without being exhausted!! Don't care if I offend anyone but some dogs in the show rings aren't heavy boned as people have tried to convince me but are fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laneka Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 I have been a show person for a long time and both my show dogs and my 'pets' are in the same condition. It is only fair to the dog to keep him in as best a condition as you can. Letting a retired show dog get fat is damm lazy if you ask me. Not healthy for the dog at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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