Starving Dog Thrown From Car

[Dogawne]

BUMP How is the mother dog doing?

[Guest Ams]

Ams, is this by any chance your little foster chap? Zeb

:D ;)

Couldn't get any info re mum as she has always been up at Dakabin and I don't vollie there.

Edited April 14, 2010 by Ams

[iffykharma]

I thought people would be interested to see a little update about Indy. The RSPCA Foster Care team have sent out an email request to their foster carers for help with a few dogs.

INDY

Indy is a gorgeous Boxer / Staffordshire Bull Terrier cross, desexed female. She’s less than 2 years of age and very sweet and loving. Indy is eager to please but is a little unsure and needs gentle training. She can’t be placed with other dogs, cats or children. Indy started at our Dakabin shelter after being dumped from a car in an emaciated condition. This is a beautiful dog that deserves better things from life. Our Behaviour and Enrichment Trainers have also offered to enrol Indy and her foster carers in an RSPCA Training course at no cost. Like Crystal, our intention is to keep Indy in her foster home until an adoption can be arranged.

Edited June 16, 2010 by iffykharma

[Guest Ams]

for the update. If she is anything like her puppy was then she is a darling. Zeb was a treasure to look after. It is amazing how Indy looks now, nothing like the bag of bones that was rescued. C'mon DOL lets find the lady a home.

[WreckitWhippet]

She should have been PTS, if she can't be rehomed with other dogs, cats or children. Fair enough about the cats and prey drive but she's going to come across other dogs and children during her lifetime.

[Tim'sMum]

She should have been PTS, if she can't be rehomed with other dogs, cats or children. Fair enough about the cats and prey drive but she's going to come across other dogs and children during her lifetime.

Rubbish! :D

Just like any dog....with training, which she will be given, and time, she can learn. She is obviously a still young and poorly socialised Staffy X Boxer....with both breeds being quite boisterous. That does not mean she does not have the ability to learn how to be a well behaved and sociable dog.

[WreckitWhippet]

She should have been PTS, if she can't be rehomed with other dogs, cats or children. Fair enough about the cats and prey drive but she's going to come across other dogs and children during her lifetime.

Rubbish! :D

Just like any dog....with training, which she will be given, and time, she can learn. She is obviously a still young and poorly socialised Staffy X Boxer....with both breeds being quite boisterous. That does not mean she does not have the ability to learn how to be a well behaved and sociable dog.

A poorly socialised SBT or cross is an accident waiting to happen, the same can be said for a Boxer. They are both supposed to be confident breeds, that stand their ground. Timid and lacking confidence they are ticking bombs.

The RSPCA has reached an all time low.

[Tim'sMum]

Have you met the dog SBT123? How many rescuers here on DOL have taken on difficult dogs and with a bit of love and a lot of training have managed to turn that dog into a well behaved dog?

My own Staffy (foster failure from Staffyrescue) would have been PTS under your criteria.

It seems the RSPCA can do nothing right. If they did PTS this girl, people would say they didn't try. So they are trying to give this dog a chance...and the likes of you are saying....'Wrong! Kill her!'

Honestly? :D

[WreckitWhippet]

The likes of me can remember dogs such as Clifford.

Weak nerves in either the SBT or the Boxer is an accident waiting to happen. Being "boisterous" is easily fixed. Weak nerves, timidity and undersocialised, should not be recycled back into the community.

[Loving my Oldies]

Thanks for the update, Iffykharma. I for one have wondered from time to time how Indy has been getting on. I'm glad that she has been given a chance to flourish and to find a loving caring home. Love the jaw: maybe she should have been called Winnie LOL.

I would certainly be loath to pass judgement on her and say she is beyond redemption. It has been only one and a half months and who knows how she will respond after more love and time. It would be a different story had she been an older dog and has sustained injuries that would have left her in pain and/or discomfort.

She is healthy and beautiful and in the right hands should be given every chance to prove herself.

[iffykharma]

She should have been PTS, if she can't be rehomed with other dogs, cats or children. Fair enough about the cats and prey drive but she's going to come across other dogs and children during her lifetime.

Its worth noting that she is currently on the Adopt-a-Pet site and available for adoption with no reference to her not being suitable for families with young children, cats or other dogs (and they normally do make those conditions clear). This means, for what it's worth, that she has passed the RSPCA's behaviour/temperament test. I don't know why they have suggested she not be fostered with other dogs, cats or children - I'm sure the Foster Care team have their reasons and I won't speculate. There could be any number of reasons and it doesn't necessarily indicate that she is either dog or child aggressive.

[Loving my Oldies]

There could be any number of reasons and it doesn't necessarily indicate that she is either dog or child aggressive.

Exactly. It could simply be that the RSPCA feels that a quiet environment would suit her best.

[BigDaz]

The likes of me can remember dogs such as Clifford.

Weak nerves in either the SBT or the Boxer is an accident waiting to happen. Being "boisterous" is easily fixed. Weak nerves, timidity and undersocialised, should not be recycled back into the community.

I have a weak nerve, timid SBT, who I would trust around and any kid or animal. I also have a strong, confident SBT who I would not trust 100% around kids or other animals.

My timid girl is one of the most beautiful dogs you will ever meet, she looks at everyone she meets with love in her eyes, I would hate to see her PTS because she is timid

Generalisations are not always correct.

[Tim'sMum]

The likes of me can remember dogs such as Clifford.

Weak nerves in either the SBT or the Boxer is an accident waiting to happen. Being "boisterous" is easily fixed. Weak nerves, timidity and undersocialised, should not be recycled back into the community.

Umm...Clifford was a Pitbull or Pitbull X was he not? He was certainly not an SBT. I think we all know what happens with Pitbulls at the RSPCA.

'Weak nerves'.....is that a medical condition. I am assuming you mean timid ? Should we PTS every dog that is timid?

Thanks for the explanation Iffykharma.

[Guest]

Oh my goodness, poor little soul, its only humans that do these atrocious, things to animals, the human race would have to be the cruelest creatures on this earth.

I would love to be able to praise the RSPCA, but many years ago we had a cat that was mauled by a dog and was in such a bad way that it needed to be PTS, so we rang RSPCA, to see if they would help us, as at that time we were rather skint ,and they refused, so we rang AWL, who said bring her down imediately, with no questions asked, so I have a lot of respect for the AWL, and very little for the RSPCA.

lablove

[Howl]

Oh my goodness, poor little soul, its only humans that do these atrocious, things to animals, the human race would have to be the cruelest creatures on this earth.

I would love to be able to praise the RSPCA, but many years ago we had a cat that was mauled by a dog and was in such a bad way that it needed to be PTS, so we rang RSPCA, to see if they would help us, as at that time we were rather skint ,and they refused, so we rang AWL, who said bring her down imediately, with no questions asked, so I have a lot of respect for the AWL, and very little for the RSPCA.

lablove

Mmmm, so you base your opinion on them on one incident?

[RottnBullies]

The likes of me can remember dogs such as Clifford.

Weak nerves in either the SBT or the Boxer is an accident waiting to happen. Being "boisterous" is easily fixed. Weak nerves, timidity and undersocialised, should not be recycled back into the community.

Umm...Clifford was a Pitbull or Pitbull X was he not? He was certainly not an SBT. I think we all know what happens with Pitbulls at the RSPCA.

'Weak nerves'.....is that a medical condition. I am assuming you mean timid ? Should we PTS every dog that is timid?

Thanks for the explanation Iffykharma.

Yes we do, although It was very clever of that particular RSPCA to make money off him first before they did the deed, they can also say whatever they want In regards to a dog NOT being suitable to re home as there will always be the gullible who believe them

Mmmm, so you base your opinion on them on one incident?

One incident Is one too many, so yes that would be all It takes from me

Plenty of other deserving rescues to donate to... different strokes for different folks

[Howl]

The likes of me can remember dogs such as Clifford.

Weak nerves in either the SBT or the Boxer is an accident waiting to happen. Being "boisterous" is easily fixed. Weak nerves, timidity and undersocialised, should not be recycled back into the community.

Umm...Clifford was a Pitbull or Pitbull X was he not? He was certainly not an SBT. I think we all know what happens with Pitbulls at the RSPCA.

'Weak nerves'.....is that a medical condition. I am assuming you mean timid ? Should we PTS every dog that is timid?

Thanks for the explanation Iffykharma.

Yes we do, although It was very clever of that particular RSPCA to make money off him first before they did the deed, they can also say whatever they want In regards to a dog NOT being suitable to re home as there will always be the gullible who believe them

Mmmm, so you base your opinion on them on one incident?

One incident Is one too many, so yes that would be all It takes from me

Plenty of other deserving rescues to donate to... different strokes for different folks

Fair enough. I guess if you have that view you can't really argue with those who had a bad incident with a pit bull and so now thinks the whole breed should go...

I had a bad experience with the checkout operator at Coles once, but I still like to shop there.

[Jed]

'Weak nerves'.....is that a medical condition. I am assuming you mean timid ? Should we PTS every dog that is timid?

Poor nerve or weak nerves, which is what I believe was meant, is inherent in the dog, . If I was breeding b oxers with poor or weak nerve, I would desist, or change lines. Weak nerved dogs are often dangeerous, and fear biters. If you want more understanding, check out the BSL forum, there is a thread there on weak nerves

Edited June 20, 2010 by Jed

[Tim'sMum]

'Weak nerves'.....is that a medical condition. I am assuming you mean timid ? Should we PTS every dog that is timid?

Poor nerve or weak nerves, which is what I believe was meant, is inherent in the dog, . If I was breeding b oxers with poor or weak nerve, I would desist, or change lines. Weak nerved dogs are often dangeerous, and fear biters. If you want more understanding, check out the BSL forum, there is a thread there on weak nerves

Thanks Jed. The expression 'weak nerves' is a rather strange one. It brings to mind Victorian ladies having the vapours and needing smelling salts.

Still.....I get the impression from those in the know..ie: Iffykharma, that this dog is certainly capable of being rehomed responsibly after a bit of training.

Any responsible rescuer, with a mixed breed dog who has been abused, would and always should be somewhat careful about where they rehome that animal.

It is not uncommon for rescued dogs to be untrustworthy with cats. Neither of my dogs (both rescues) have been exposed to cats.

As for small children....any dog that is boisterous (as both SBT's and Boxers can be) should be considered as not entirely suitable either.

If, for some reason I had to rehome my dogs.....I would stipulate a home with no cats and preferably no small children. Both dogs can be boisterous, especially when they do zoomies around the house and my Staffy would probably spend her time trying to sit on a baby. She is not all that light, has a thing about wanting to be physically close to people and will even attempt to park her bum on my Mum's lap...and Mum is nearly 90 with osteo-arthritis.

As for other dogs....my Kelpie X is very friendly with the majority of dogs but the Staffy is choosy with other dogs when it comes to who she likes and who she doesn't.

I see nothing wrong with a rescuer specifying certain conditions with a new home....you see certain specifications quite often on Petrescue etc.. Not every dog is totally 'bomb-proof' 100% of the time.

I felt SBT123's call to have the dog PTS, just because of the breed mix and certain quite normal specifications for rehoming, totally uncalled for and shows the same attitude that brought BSL into existence....'The dog is a certain breed or breed X and comes from an abused background, therefore it is always untrustworthy, so it should no longer exist!' Not having met the dog just compounds SBT123's arrogance.

Edited June 20, 2010 by Tim'sMum