PuggaWuggles Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) Hi all. I have been noticing with Wugs that when he starts to bark at something,and i dont mean play barking,the hair running down the middle of his back stands up like a ridgeback,running 3/4 of the way down his back,then we tell him "thats enough"it goes down again immediatley,its quite funny to see. Has anyone with pugs or associated with pugs ever seen this? Edited February 25, 2010 by PuggaWuggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) Hi all.I have been noticing with Wugs that when he starts to bark at something,and i dont mean play barking,the hair running down the middle of his back stands up like a ridgeback,running 3/4 of the way down his back,then we tell him "thats enough"it goes down again immediatley,its quite funny to see. Has anyone with pugs or associated with pugs ever seen this? It's pilar erection (hackles raising).. all smooth coated dogs can do it. It's a signal that the dog is highly aroused (not necessarily aggressive). The human equivalent is getting goosebumps! Edited February 25, 2010 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Most dogs are capable of getting their hackles up and Pugs are no exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundyburger Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Hi all.I have been noticing with Wugs that when he starts to bark at something,and i dont mean play barking,the hair running down the middle of his back stands up like a ridgeback,running 3/4 of the way down his back,then we tell him "thats enough"it goes down again immediatley,its quite funny to see. Has anyone with pugs or associated with pugs ever seen this? It's a dog thing not a pug thing, most dogs can put their hackles up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuggaWuggles Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 Oh,thanks guys,good to know.its just i had never seen it,or noticed it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeckoTree Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Just hackles, Ot what does a rhodesian ridgeback look like when it gets its hackles up? because the hair naturally grows forward to form the the ridge, does it go backwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic oh lah Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 It's a signal that the dog is highly aroused (not necessarily aggressive). The human equivalent is getting goosebumps! Yep - anytime a new dog comes into the dog park Sophie runs over for a butt-sniff wanting to play with her Hackles sky-high and people are going "is she going to attack?" Sigh. I just keep saying out loud so people can hear me "Sophie put your hackles down so everyone else knows you just want to play". People think the big scary GSD is going to eat their shit-malti-poo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) It's a signal that the dog is highly aroused (not necessarily aggressive). The human equivalent is getting goosebumps! Yep - anytime a new dog comes into the dog park Sophie runs over for a butt-sniff wanting to play with her Hackles sky-high and people are going "is she going to attack?" Sigh. I just keep saying out loud so people can hear me "Sophie put your hackles down so everyone else knows you just want to play". People think the big scary GSD is going to eat their shit-malti-poo I'd not be happy with an unsolicited offlead greeting by a large dog displaying that level of arousal.. triggers to do anything are lowered in that state. Is Sophie fairly dominant? What do you think her reaction will be to being told to shove off by another dog? The reason I ask is I've been in precisely that situation with a GSD bitch.. when growled at by one of my dogs she attacked. My advice is not to let her run up to other dogs uninvited. Control the meet and greets very carefully. Edited February 25, 2010 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsBex Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 It's a signal that the dog is highly aroused (not necessarily aggressive). The human equivalent is getting goosebumps! Yep - anytime a new dog comes into the dog park Sophie runs over for a butt-sniff wanting to play with her Hackles sky-high and people are going "is she going to attack?" Sigh. I just keep saying out loud so people can hear me "Sophie put your hackles down so everyone else knows you just want to play". People think the big scary GSD is going to eat their shit-malti-poo haha ... I was in the dog park the other day, giving Cory a good run before his desexing op (the next day). There were only 3 other dogs in the park, all little dogs. A great big GSD came to the gate. Immediately the two other owners packed up and left. Thinking of all the good GSD owners on this site, I went with Cory to the gate, and politely asked the owner before he entered if his dog was ok with small dogs who still think sometimes they're puppies. The owner was great, and said his GSD loves small dogs, alot better than he likes big dogs. Was a great opportunity for Cory to play with a big dog in a controlled environment (by now we had the only 2 dogs in the park!). The GSD was awesome, but was so sad to see, as he was only 18mo but had terrible elbow/his dysplacia (spelling?) and after about 10mins romping, slowed down considerably Back to your post though, I naturally would want to know if a big dog was ok, as if he wasn't, the danger to Cory would've been alot greater than if it was a Pomeranian for example that didn't take a liking to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Thank dog. I thought this thread was going to be about pug x ridgebacks. As others have stated it's their hackles and yes pugs can raise their hackles just like any other dog can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsBex Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Thank dog. I thought this thread was going to be about pug x ridgebacks.As others have stated it's their hackles and yes pugs can raise their hackles just like any other dog can. Sorry for going OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic oh lah Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) It's a signal that the dog is highly aroused (not necessarily aggressive). The human equivalent is getting goosebumps! Yep - anytime a new dog comes into the dog park Sophie runs over for a butt-sniff wanting to play with her Hackles sky-high and people are going "is she going to attack?" Sigh. I just keep saying out loud so people can hear me "Sophie put your hackles down so everyone else knows you just want to play". People think the big scary GSD is going to eat their shit-malti-poo I'd not be happy with an unsolicited offlead greeting by a large dog displaying that level of arousal.. triggers to do anything are lowered in that state. Is Sophie fairly dominant? What do you think her reaction will be to being told to shove off by another dog? The reason I ask is I've been in precisely that situation with a GSD bitch.. when growled at by one of my dogs she attacked. My advice is not to let her run up to other dogs uninvited. Control the meet and greets very carefully. She's not going to attack. I would stake my life on it. She was the same with other dogs at the DOL meet - as far as I can tell everyone was confidant that she's very gentle. Nic was so nice to meet you and Sophie is a credit to you she was was well behaved and a beautiful nature Sophie is totally non-dominant. She sniffs their butt, then goes to their face, puppy bows in front and licks the underside of their chin. And when told to shove off she backs off asap and keeps her distance. And when i call her, she comes. Huga's woofer Harry was her main target - she was facsinated by him and trotted around after him quite happily and every so often when she went to sniff his butt he told her to get lost. No harm done - she did indeed get lost. And I dont let her run up to other dogs uninvited. When new people enter the park (just like at the DOL meet) I call her to me and hold her collar until i've asked the owner if they're happy for them to play. I'm not shoving my agressive mental dog on unsuspecting bystanders. She tends to go still, stand with pricked ears and really focus on anything that's causing her to react with dominance - eg, intruder in our yard that she guarded me against the other day. She's fine. ETA - i acknowledge this isnt true of all dogs - that's why i explain to people that she's just excited by the new doggie and thats why her hackles her up and assure them that if she was agro, i would know it. I dont think its a behaviour to dismiss in dogs, but i know mine really well which is why i can make that call. But i completely understand why people back off until they have spoken to me - thats why i hold her collar until the other person is calm and happy for me to let her go. Edited February 25, 2010 by NicGSDlover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Just hackles, Ot what does a rhodesian ridgeback look like when it gets its hackles up? because the hair naturally grows forward to form the the ridge, does it go backwards? It can stand up, but appears more 'fluffy'. Mostly, it is the hair on rump, base of tail and over shoulders that stands up more as what we're used to. OP - watch for the reasons WHY your pug is showing pilo erection. Not sure how old your Pug is but possibly entering 2nd fear impact period ??? The hackles generally indicate uncertainty or fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Just hackles, Ot what does a rhodesian ridgeback look like when it gets its hackles up? because the hair naturally grows forward to form the the ridge, does it go backwards? It can stand up, but appears more 'fluffy'. Mostly, it is the hair on rump, base of tail and over shoulders that stands up more as what we're used to. OP - watch for the reasons WHY your pug is showing pilo erection. Not sure how old your Pug is but possibly entering 2nd fear impact period ??? The hackles generally indicate uncertainty or fear. Yep, Kei does that. Just raises a little patch of fur above his tail. I've not seen him so it many times but when he has done it he has been either very unsure of something or scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab_Rat Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 :laugh: I would love to see a Pug with its hackles up, that would be so cute!! My ridgy girl gets a "fluffy" rump as well when her hackles go up, and the hair over her shoulders and neck also stands up. Wandy kelpie gets a keel up her back.... :) She has quite long hair over her shoulders and when her hackles are up its huge! We used to call her "pig-hair-back" when she was a youngster! Rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 :laugh: I would love to see a Pug with its hackles up, that would be so cute!! Generally speaking, pilo erection is not for "cute" reasons. If a Mastiff, or Rotty or other large dog had its hackles up, would that be cute too? A small dog is nevertheless a dog. Sorry if I'm not able to see the funny side of dogs (regardless of size) having their hackles up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 She's not going to attack. I would stake my life on it. She was the same with other dogs at the DOL meet - as far as I can tell everyone was confidant that she's very gentle. Yes but how do you know another dog won't attack her and potentially hurt her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic oh lah Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 She's not going to attack. I would stake my life on it. She was the same with other dogs at the DOL meet - as far as I can tell everyone was confidant that she's very gentle. Yes but how do you know another dog won't attack her and potentially hurt her? Because she is not behaving dominant or aggressive. She "fluffs up" a bit - she doesnt turn into a stiff focused scared dog with a ridge sky high. How do you know a piano is not going to drop on your head as you walk past a three legged midget? You just know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 I am just saying my older girl at home wags her tail when she is irritated and hates larger female dogs, we had to stop taking her out because she would snap at dogs that got too close to her even in a friendly way, no warning . (Yes she was always on lead and all the times she displayed agression the other dogs were loose) I am sure your dog would never attack another dog but imagine if another dog attacked yours. I think the chances of a dog attcking another seemingly unprovoked are far more likely then a three legged little person. (Sorry to the OP for going OT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuggaWuggles Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) Wugs only does it when he knows something is there but he cant see it.At which stage i will check for him,and once he knows there is nothing there to worry about,his hackles go down and he is relaxed again. He has never done it when just looking and barking at another dog or person he can see. 'Thank dog. I thought this thread was going to be about pug x ridgebacks', puggy_puggy,that would be scary and disturbing . Edited February 26, 2010 by PuggaWuggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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