tybrax Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Local Gold Coast paper The Sun 17.2.2010. Jessica Elder. Non -breeders need to get the snip. People who do not want theirs pets to breed but do not have them desexed have been branded "animail killers" by a Gold Coast City Councillor. Dog lover Cr Jan Grew said she was disgusted by the lazy nature of many city's pet owners. "What happens to unwanted pets? they get killed," she said. "Where talking about an innocent animal on the vets slab being given a lethal injection. "If you don't intend to breed you dog and cat then the only responsible course of action is to have it desexed. "Its no excuse to say 'oh but another dog jumped into my yard' it doesn't matter -its the owners responsibility. The AWL has a policy against euthanasia, but the numbers of animals surrendered and found on the streets is getting out of control. If owners were more resposible we would not have these problems. The Council will implement new breeder regulations in April. The new rules will mean anyone wanting thier pet to have a litter will be forced to pay $300.00 plus for a breeder's license. Compulsory desexing is not included in the new Local law. Cr Grew said that if desexing was not enforced the new rules would mean nothing. Animal Control Officer Geoff Irwin admitted the new licensing rules were not stringently enforceable and would be hard to POLICE. "To track down the owners breeding without a permit,we would have to investigate individual matters before issuing a show cause notice," he said. View the proposed regulations at goldcoast.qld.gov.au from next month. tybrax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kissindra Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 (edited) This post deleted due to PMS meh, I'm going to go eat some icecream. Edited February 22, 2010 by Kissindra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MolassesLass Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Vets need to come to the party to help enforce these things. Make it so vets must report any bitches in whelp they see, any pups coming for vaccinations etc. to the council or the council bans them from their area. The council checks if they have the permit and goes and fines their arse if they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 What a load of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoKillAustralia Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 What a load of crap. Couldn't agree more. The first step to no pets and the one's which will suffer (die) are the dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlemum Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 What a load of crap. Couldn't agree more. The first step to no pets and the one's which will suffer (die) are the dogs. So, you support the breeding of crossbreeds for "pets" - what's wrong with purebreds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MolassesLass Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 It's not even stopping cross-breeding, it's only making people pay to register as a breeder before they are allowed to produce pups. Nothing about being a DogsQld member or breeding purebreds or anything of the sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoppyDog Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I think if it helps stop BYB then GREAT!!! I DO think desexing could be less expensive though! That may also help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeckoTree Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 (edited) What a friggen whacko, I am sure dog showers just luv being called an animal killa. People who do not want theirs pets to breed but do not have them desexed have been branded "animail killers" by a Gold Coast City Councillor. As for the other part allready said my bit in the other thread. Unenforceable. Why dont the pay people to desex dogs? if they really want to cut down numbers, you know take it of in rates or something, a threat is not an incentive in the 21'st century. Edited February 23, 2010 by GeckoTree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikesPuppy Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Blurgh. What a crap rule. Many people choose not to desex because they are a responsible owner and have weighed up the pros and cons of the operation. Or they exhibit. Sure some people have an "oops some dog jumped the fence" litter but I also know some fairly casual "desexing costs too much" owners who's dog has never gotten out or had a litter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esky the husky Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 What if you exhibit but don't breed?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diva Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Vets need to come to the party to help enforce these things. Make it so vets must report any bitches in whelp they see, any pups coming for vaccinations etc. to the council or the council bans them from their area. The council checks if they have the permit and goes and fines their arse if they don't. People figure out that is happening and they'll stop taking their animals to vets. Not a good outcome for the dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MolassesLass Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Blurgh. What a crap rule. Many people choose not to desex because they are a responsible owner and have weighed up the pros and cons of the operation. Or they exhibit. Sure some people have an "oops some dog jumped the fence" litter but I also know some fairly casual "desexing costs too much" owners who's dog has never gotten out or had a litter ;) Why is it crap that people must pay to be registered with their council before they breed dogs and sell the pups? It's kind of like business registration and might offer people a come back with BYBs. What if you exhibit but don't breed?? This councillor believes you are contributing to the unwanted dog problem, but so what (if you aren't)? Compulsory desexing was NOT introduced. Vets need to come to the party to help enforce these things. Make it so vets must report any bitches in whelp they see, any pups coming for vaccinations etc. to the council or the council bans them from their area. The council checks if they have the permit and goes and fines their arse if they don't. People figure out that is happening and they'll stop taking their animals to vets. Not a good outcome for the dogs. Nope but better a few dogs die than hundreds of their pups do. Council can also call every ad in the local papers selling pups as buyers, get the address to come see them and then check their records. It will take man-power but it can be enforceable IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♪♫LMBC♫♪ Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Vets need to come to the party to help enforce these things. Make it so vets must report any bitches in whelp they see, any pups coming for vaccinations etc. to the council or the council bans them from their area. The council checks if they have the permit and goes and fines their arse if they don't. Then you would have a massive increase in BYBs who don't get vet care for their pregnant bitch, and don't vet-check or vaccinate their puppies. At least now, BYBs can take their puppies in for vaccinations. Better than having pups being sold without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MolassesLass Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 What's your alternative solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoofnHoof Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I agree with ML I think it's a great solution, anyone who really wants to keep their dogs entire can do so they just have to fork out the extra cash. Council will enforce it because it's great for revenue, has the dual purpose of collecting breeder registration fees and reducing the costs associated with poundies. If people wont fork out $300 for a breeder license they aren't going to fork out however much in vet fees anyway so I really doubt it's going to make much difference there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefairy Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Two reason's I have heard a lot for NOT desexing an animal is: 1. Too expensive 2. Can't be bothered And yes I know there are others, like those who show animals and registered breeders, so enforcing desexing is not the answer nor is being penalised for not doing so. So why can't the councils for each area and the vets of the animal owners choice both come to the party and do the desexing at a discount, both donating towards some of the costs involved, so the initial outlay for the owner is not such a huge burden as it is for some people. There would be more desexed animals then there are atm. Of course there will always be people who want an animal but still don't give a toss about its health or desexing, but these kind of people are the ones that never seem to get caught, and they continually do things that affect others. Bluefairy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 So by paying the $300 for a breeders license then they can be advertised (albeit not really correctly) as selling puppies from registered breeders. That will be confusing for consumers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 At what age would they enforce desexing? I'm not planning on breeding, but i'm also not planning on desexing either, and not because of cost or laziness, but because i've read many varying opinions on desexing and i'm choosing not to. simple as that. maybe i'll change my mind when my male is fully grown. How about they ban pet shops from selling pets, because the number in the pound would certainly drop then. IMO anyone buying a dog from a petshop hasn't researched enough about dogs before making a life changing decision, and these are the people that place their dogs in the pound without a second though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MolassesLass Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 At what age would they enforce desexing? At what age would WHO enforce desexing? The GCCC is NOT introducing mandatory desexing. Local Gold Coast paper The Sun 17.2.2010. Jessica Elder. Non -breeders need to get the snip. People who do not want theirs pets to breed but do not have them desexed have been branded "animail killers" by a Gold Coast City Councillor. Dog lover Cr Jan Grew said she was disgusted by the lazy nature of many city's pet owners. "What happens to unwanted pets? they get killed," she said. "Where talking about an innocent animal on the vets slab being given a lethal injection. "If you don't intend to breed you dog and cat then the only responsible course of action is to have it desexed. "Its no excuse to say 'oh but another dog jumped into my yard' it doesn't matter -its the owners responsibility. The AWL has a policy against euthanasia, but the numbers of animals surrendered and found on the streets is getting out of control. If owners were more resposible we would not have these problems. The Council will implement new breeder regulations in April. The new rules will mean anyone wanting thier pet to have a litter will be forced to pay $300.00 plus for a breeder's license. Compulsory desexing is not included in the new Local law. Cr Grew said that if desexing was not enforced the new rules would mean nothing. Animal Control Officer Geoff Irwin admitted the new licensing rules were not stringently enforceable and would be hard to POLICE. "To track down the owners breeding without a permit,we would have to investigate individual matters before issuing a show cause notice," he said. View the proposed regulations at goldcoast.qld.gov.au from next month. The thoughts on madatory desexing thrown about in Qld were at time of sale. But this has NOT been introduced anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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