picaflor Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 ARGH!!! We were given a cadbury's chocolate stocking each at Christmas - and it seems Amelie has figered out how to get things off a rather high shelf!! Just arrived home to find Amelie and Chico fighting over a Twirl :D Now missing are almost all of (less the debris scattered all over the carpet ) TWO plain chocolate bars TWO twirl bars TWO Crunchies TWO time outs They just left us the freddo frogs THAT'S MORE THAN 200 GRAMS OF CHOCOLATE EACH I think Amelie has had most of it - by the size of her belly though ;) What can we do?? Expecting them to be quite unwell tonight - I'm tempted to throw both of them outside for the night - but perhaps should be keeping an eye on them???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Jenti - I would ring your vet now! Chocolate is toxic to most dogs. That is a helluva lot that they have eaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picaflor Posted January 2, 2005 Author Share Posted January 2, 2005 OK - found this - but the calculations?? Amelie is about 5.5kg - more or less - we weighed her two weeks ago and I only vaguely remember... The good news is that it takes, on average, a fairly large amount of theobromine 100-150 mg/kg to cause a toxic reaction. Although there are variables to consider like the individual sensitivity, animal size and chocolate concentration. On average, Milk chocolate contains 44 mg of theobromine per oz. Using a dose of 100 mg/kg as the toxic dose it comes out roughly as: 1 ounce per 1 pound of body weight for Milk chocolate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 "Chocolate contains theobromine (a compound similar to caffeine) which is poisonous to dogs. A dose of 50 mg/lb can be fatal to a dog. Milk chocolate contains 45 mg of theobromine per ounce and unsweetened baking chocolate contains 400 mg per ounce. Just one ounce of unsweetened baking chocolate can kill a small breed dog. Theobromine when ingested by dogs causes release of epinephrine (adrenaline) which causes the heart to race and serious cardiac arrhythmias to develop. Signs of chocolate poisoning in dogs include vomiting, diarrhea, excessive urination, hyperactivity followed by depression and coma, seizures, and death. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Are they the snack size or the normal size bars? I would be inclined to make them vomit it up- if it hasn't been too long ago that they ate it. Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picaflor Posted January 2, 2005 Author Share Posted January 2, 2005 Yep normal bars. HOW??? Callign vet AMELIEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 (edited) Posted at the same time.......... Give them some very burnt toast, apparently this helps...something to do with charcoal absorbing it. Can't hurt to try anyway. From the same site If you suspect your dog has ingested chocolate, call your veterinarian immediately. With their instruction you may be able to induce vomiting greatly increasing the odds of your pet surviving. Time is of the essence in these cases - seek emergency care immediately if chocolate has been consumed. Edited January 2, 2005 by dru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Anyone got any good ideas for making dogs vomit..?? I tried the salty water when my dog ate a whole box of party pies once- didn't work she wouldn't vomit. I know there's something else you can use....can't remember though. Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picaflor Posted January 2, 2005 Author Share Posted January 2, 2005 60 gms of chocolate per 10 kgs body weight is potentially lethal. ARGH ARGH ARGH!!!! They say hyperactivity may be a sigh of chocolate poisoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappie Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Keyword is potentially! The 100mg/kg is the figure that I remember - and from the range you quoted there are 45mg in 60g of milk chocolate, very roughly 100g / kg making a dog very sick. My boss and I did a calculation once and I think we established that 2 rows of a "normal" Cadbury block (what is that? 250g?) would make a Chihuahua sick (that was the dog we were dealing with at the time). Of course, it is all variable - I suggest you keep a close eye on them, not sure about inducing vomiting (I can check) but charcoal should be fine. Keep tabs on high heart rates at rest, a really bounding heart beat and signs of distress - and know where an after hours vet is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintanut Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 (edited) Call the nearest animal hospital and ask for advise, ASAP. Jinta once ate almost a whole family block of chocie and she was ok. I did however call vet hospital at strathfield, and they said if she showed signs to bring her in. IM not saying all will be well, but it may not be as disasterous as your thinking? Call the vet, and they can help you with how to induce vomiting. Goodluck. Jinta was a pup when she did that,(under 6 months, weighed approx, 9kgs. so I dont go into a full scale panic unless its more than a large size block of dove chocolate. (id be alot more concerned if theyed eaten a mud cake....FULL of the dangerous cooking chocolate, it has the highest concerntration of the bad chemicals.) Edited January 2, 2005 by Jintanut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 (edited) . Edited December 13, 2008 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintanut Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Peroxide???? wouldnt that induce death as well???? sheeeeeeet, imagine drinking peroxide. Id be more inclined to do the milk and vinegar..or milk and OJ, or just go to the vet. Peroxide?? are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappie Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Cooking and dark chocolate are definately worse. Not sure of the dose of peroxide, I think its an arbitrary few drops, but I will have to check before you quote me on that! A specialist centre is best equipped to answer these type of questions - happy to help but would try calling one - they're staffed 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Jenti did ya call the Vet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintanut Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 whats the vets say....or are you already mopping up the after effects of the dogs little party???? let us know jentil1.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 (edited) . Edited December 13, 2008 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 I'd never use peroxide- it's tissue damaging- like swallowing bleach I'd imagine. I used to work for a crazy Vet who would use it to clean out cat bite abcesses...it just fizzes up and burns. Looks like Jenti has gone anyhow. Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintanut Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Anne i didnt mean to sound like i was trashing you, im sure you wouldnt hurt a dog. It was more suprise, that peroxide would be an option. I think I might have even read of it before somewhere. If you could have seen my face, you would know what i mean. I hate how written word can easily be confused. Ive been doing cleaning all day, and my hands smell of domestos, the thought of drinking peroxide freaks me out. I doubt i could get Jinta to drink even the most diluted solution of that. I think id prefer to use a stomache pump, at the vets. Im no vet and of course have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappie Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Peroxide can be (and is widely) used to induce vomiting however because of the fairly long list of complications I'm hesitant to provide a dose rate while knowing very little about the situation. The "nicest" effective method of inducing vomiting is apomorphine however that needs to be administered by a vet. Wouldn't recommend salt, as if it isn't effective, it can cause its own set of problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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