Tiggy Posted October 2, 2011 Author Share Posted October 2, 2011 Wow! Banjo is doing some nice work. If I could just get him to bloody stand we'd be right. :D Bear scares me! I feel like I need to be in fast forward to keep up with him. He's going to be an awesome obedience dog! How do you go about teaching the line up? I kind of lured it with Banjo and it's not what I want. I want him to know that position and jump into it like I've seen certain other dolers dogs do. ;) I've looked for YouTube vids but I couldn't find anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Tiggy I taught Cider to line up at 8 weeks of age by stepping into heel position when she was sitting and then rapidly rewarding. To begin with she had no idea why she was being rewarded, but it doesn't take them very long to work it out and because I was stepping into the right position, there was no chance of her getting it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Murve - lovely photos from the Royal. Bedazzled and I would love to do your Royal "one day" but it always clashes with ours and the AFL Grand Final which means there are no cheap airfares and no cheap accommodation. Bugger SLLH and Ness - there is always another trial..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Ptolomy you should come back to Adelaide at some point - we might get to play on the "grass" there is talk about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murve Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Murve - lovely photos from the Royal. Bedazzled and I would love to do your Royal "one day" but it always clashes with ours and the AFL Grand Final which means there are no cheap airfares and no cheap accommodation. Bugger SLLH and Ness - there is always another trial..... Thank you You & Bedazzled want to do our Royal yea!!!! well I do know where you guys could get free accomondation, beds could be limited though, Dogs welcome sorry cant help on cheap airflights unless you book between May & July when the show entries are due Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted October 2, 2011 Author Share Posted October 2, 2011 Tiggy I taught Cider to line up at 8 weeks of age by stepping into heel position when she was sitting and then rapidly rewarding. To begin with she had no idea why she was being rewarded, but it doesn't take them very long to work it out and because I was stepping into the right position, there was no chance of her getting it wrong. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elise+Hudson Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I was wondering if someone might be able to show me where I might be able to find some info on obedience? I don't have a club nearby, but I am starting to be more interested in it, as my little guy has been picking up a few commands SO quickly lately. What age can dogs start trialing at CCD level? Is there somewhere I can see the rules, I know nothing! - can you give hand signals? voice commands? The sits and stays at CCD level are on lead, are these just by your side, or do you walk away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murve Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I was wondering if someone might be able to show me where I might be able to find some info on obedience? I don't have a club nearby, but I am starting to be more interested in it, as my little guy has been picking up a few commands SO quickly lately. What age can dogs start trialing at CCD level? Is there somewhere I can see the rules, I know nothing! - can you give hand signals? voice commands? The sits and stays at CCD level are on lead, are these just by your side, or do you walk away? Hi Elise & Hudson here is the link to the ANKC site, scroll down to Obedience, click on it to open it, it is all broken down for the different classes from CCD to UDX plus all the rules etc http://www.ankc.org.au/Rules.aspx I have been in a class that had 7 month old Schnausher competing, sit stay & drop stays are done off lead plus the recall & yes you do walk away, Recall best to have your hand in front of your body, Sit & drop stays best to walk away & keep your hands around your back, the rest of CCD is done on lead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elise+Hudson Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Ok great! Thanks for that I will have a look through it. :D How do you begin training stays? I have started getting the sit and drop fairly consistantly now, but I don't think he would stay for many steps! Also for the recall how are they supposed to return to you? He would come fine, but are they supposed to sit next to you or something? (please excuse the dumb questions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elise+Hudson Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Just read through the rules, it will be a while before Hudson is anywhere near ready! He would at the moment need a command for sit at the halt, he would probably run in a circle around me on recall + jump on the judge during SFE, which probably counts as 'attacking' and disqualification! hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoilt lab lives here Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Baby steps! You dont get a dog who knows how to sit without any commands over night Your best bet is to find an obedience club somewhere that can show you how to get the basics down pat and go from there The stays, start at the very beginning. Sit, stay and then stand in front of his nose for a few seconds, then slowly get longer and longer and a little bit further away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Elise+Hudson - have a search on Youtube for "CCD Trial" there are videos of trials on there - it will give you a good idea of what to expect :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoilt lab lives here Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Yes! Youtube is a great tool! So is this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murve Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) This should help you a bit Elsie & Hudson, Hastings trial on the 26 June 2011 at Hastings yes I know you guys are going to do a lot of picking have fun this video was done 1 week before we got our CCD 1st pass My link Edited October 4, 2011 by murve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) Can't see it, murve! E+H, there is definitely no rush! He's only a little baby. Dogs have to be a minimum of 6 months to enter an obedience trial (18 months for agility), but there aren't many dogs who would be ready (physically and mentally) by 6 months (there might be a few exceptions but I'd say they are few and far between). Don't underestimate what is required even for a CCD trial on lead, it's a fair bit of time for a dog to go without praise and rewards and to pay attention in heelwork. Definitely watch some youtube clips for a better picture of where you want to be heading with your training if you can't get to a club (I think there's a link to mine in my profile). It is doable, but take baby steps and I am sure Hudson will kick butt in the obedience ring when he's ready :D He sure is a little cutie I must say ;) Been stalking your photos in the Aussie thread! Edited October 4, 2011 by RubyStar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoilt lab lives here Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Agree with everything RS said! We are 5 trials in and only have 2 passes in CCD! Its taken a lot more work on both the handlers side and the dogs side than I thought thats for sure! In the beginning our training sessions hardly even translated into our time in the ring. It took a lot of tweaking to get out heeling up to scratch and I was very proud of him on Sunday. In the pouring rain at the state titles we sill managed to score 22 for heeling. More than I though we would! Im entering upcoming trials in november but im scared!! We are only 1 pass away from our title and I have begun training for the novice ring but I dont want to rush us into the ring. My plan was to title last weekend spend the next few weeks getting our novice up to scratch and up to a ring level and then have a go on 4th November. Now that 4th Novemeber and 12th November I will enter as CCD just in case. And am planning a double on 18/19th as novice entries. I mean if we arent ready we wont go in but actually putting NOVICE on the form is freaking me out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Yup spoilt lab novice is much harder imo with being offlead as they can be sniffing or lagging and u dont always notice it at first.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Guess it depends a little how you train MG - I found CCD harder as a handler and after passing one trial bumped Kenz up into Novice. Leads and me don't mix and since I never train with a lead on any way it was a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuffles Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) Elise as a guide, Ava's first CCD trial was when she was 15 months old, and I trained her with trials in mind from a baby. I'm pretty sure she was the youngest dog in all her CCD trials, and most of her Novice ones as well. If I wasn't so impatient I would have waited longer. We won't be back in the obedience ring until next year. Open is requiring a fair bit of tweaking and I am not getting great consistency in some of the exercises yet so we need time to work on them. Ava is spending more time on the couch than the training field and I don't think she minds much at all Edit: Yep I actually found Novice easier and the lead caused us all kinds of problems. I do like the concept of a leash almost like a safety blanket for newbie dog and owner but putting it into practice was hard for me Edited October 4, 2011 by wuffles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoilt lab lives here Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) To enter CD do you have to include the dogs height on the form? Ive never done it for CCD and as far as I know there are no jumps in the CD ring either. Will I need to put it on the form? I just found a trial in the gazette on 29Oct11! Entries close on 7/10/11!! Im express posting my entry today. Ive got my trialling schedule all out planned now 29/10/11 & 5/11/11 CCD trials, Im going to enter 12/11/11 as CCD as well just in case and then the double on 18/19 Nov will be CD rings and there is 25/26 november night trials in Sydney which I may enter too. Not sure yet. But we will see how we go! Im loving the night time trials it means no more early mornings! I can leave mid afternoon and still get there on time. Very exciting to say good by to the 5am starts! Edited October 5, 2011 by spoilt lab lives here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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