MissMolly Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) I am sure that certainly didn't help the dogs (poor things)and their emotional state, that is about a 4 hour trip and most of them have more then likely never been in a car before.. Edited February 11, 2010 by MissMolly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripley Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) There were so many beautiful little cavvies - I'm so glad Ripley that your mum ended up with Charlotte. She is so sweet and I am sure loving her wonderful new home She is a sweetie but still very timid. Not with mum though, she's great with mum. She will let me pat her as long as I reach down from the table and stroke her. If anyone apart from mum looks at her, she will bolt into the bedroom and jump in her bed. I was surprised how easy she learned toilet training, smart little girl. No accidents at all after she realised where the other 2 dogs go. She walks on the lead fine as well. eta: see how timid she is with me, I had to corner her in the fernery outside to take a photo. She ran in there and wouldn't come out until OH and I left. This was last year though and she is getting better. Edited February 11, 2010 by Ripley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spottychick Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 OMG She wasn't even fined. That $9,000 was just to repay the RSPCA for court costs. She only got a good behaviour bond FFS!!! Less than a slap on the wrist. How disgusting. And what a pathetic defence she had. Tho clearly the idiot magistrate thought it was acceptable. What chance do dogs have really?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frufru Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Thanks for the news link - so much better than my memory. Glad that Charlotte found such a good home as did many of the others. At the time this happened I had heard that many would not make it due to fear aggression. I actually clipped two little poodles from this surrender that were went north from Coffs. They were two very timid boys but not mean at all. Huge dred locks and gunky ears but no fleas - they had had some maintenance (face ant top knot had been clipped ) and were not thin. Having so many dogs is just ridiculous and there is no way one person could adequately care for these dogs let alone socialise them. One of these little poodles comes to me for regular grooming and like Charlotte is adored by his owners and is slowly gaining confidence and now enjoys his walk on the lead but still very timid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly_Louise Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Its heartbreaking to see such a timid dog... but thankfully they are with caring people who understand their needs and their limitations and can help them improve and learn to trust again No dog should have to live their lives feeling such fear. It's just wrong. Spottychick exactly... she only paid for the care and maintenance that she should of in the first place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarope Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 RSPCA inspector says dogs are not socialized it's a bloody puppy mill. RSPCA allows lowlife woman to keep 24 dogs, WTF does the stupid RSPCA think this lowlife is going to look after these poor dogs. If the RSPCA were serious they would take all the dogs and close every puppy mill. I wonder how many of these poor dogs will pass the RSPCA temp test. Your a bloody joke RSPCA. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly_Louise Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Not sure if that's totally fair... they did manage to save 100 or so of them - it deserves some credit. I know it's their job, but with the amount of people that treat their animals cruelly and then cry foul (or 'i was just going through a rough patch') etc, would be constant and never ending. It's not their fault there are just some careless d*cks in the world... they are the ones picking up the pieces. I don't always agree with RSPCA decisions and stances, however, to have saved so many from a terrible situation is a pretty good effort I'd say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnauzer Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 RSPCA inspector says dogs are not socialized it's a bloody puppy mill. RSPCA allows lowlife woman to keep 24 dogs, WTF does the stupid RSPCA think this lowlife is going to look after these poor dogs. If the RSPCA were serious they would take all the dogs and close every puppy mill. I wonder how many of these poor dogs will pass the RSPCA temp test. Your a bloody joke RSPCA. ;) You need to get your facts straight tarope. I have worked with RSPCA on two puppy farm seizures and rehomed all the schnauzers for them. You could not work with more compassionate and caring people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austerra Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I thought they said that it was a case of "hoarding" not neccessarily puppy farming, obviously just doesn't part with the dogs but then lets them fend for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Baggins Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Joke of an excuse. Could not afford to buy clippers. It would have taken some time for that poodles coat to get like that. ;) :p :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Baggins Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Ripley I am glad your Mum has done wonders with the wee girl. ;) :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarope Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 RSPCA inspector says dogs are not socialized it's a bloody puppy mill. RSPCA allows lowlife woman to keep 24 dogs, WTF does the stupid RSPCA think this lowlife is going to look after these poor dogs. If the RSPCA were serious they would take all the dogs and close every puppy mill. I wonder how many of these poor dogs will pass the RSPCA temp test. Your a bloody joke RSPCA. You need to get your facts straight tarope. I have worked with RSPCA on two puppy farm seizures and rehomed all the schnauzers for them. You could not work with more compassionate and caring people. Yeah right, if they were so bloody caring there wouldn't be any puppy mills in the first place. Puppy mills have been around for a long time, what has the RSPCA done - nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mita Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 RSPCA inspector says dogs are not socialized it's a bloody puppy mill. Yes, the dogs weren't sociialised. Yes, dogs in conditions like that aren't socialised. RSPCA inspector says this by way of explantion to viewing public. So? Following schnauzer's comment. I know of a breed rescue which was in contact with the RSPCA inspector in this raid. And they spoke highly of him. It's not the RSPCA which can stop puppy farms/mills from starting. It's changes in the law that's required. I've posted earlier that the law should allow Dpt of Primary Industries Inspectors to keep an eye on any places from which puppies are sold. In this case, it seems the person was a hoarder, not a puppy seller. Animal hoarders can be hard to identify. They choose isolated places to live & don't mix with other people. Usually, they're sussed out by accident. Seems in this case, someone came upon the place & tipped off the RSPCA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mita Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 There were so many beautiful little cavvies - I'm so glad Ripley that your mum ended up with Charlotte. She is so sweet and I am sure loving her wonderful new home She is a sweetie but still very timid. Not with mum though, she's great with mum. She will let me pat her as long as I reach down from the table and stroke her. If anyone apart from mum looks at her, she will bolt into the bedroom and jump in her bed. I was surprised how easy she learned toilet training, smart little girl. No accidents at all after she realised where the other 2 dogs go. She walks on the lead fine as well. eta: see how timid she is with me, I had to corner her in the fernery outside to take a photo. She ran in there and wouldn't come out until OH and I left. This was last year though and she is getting better. Ping, a tibetan spaniel in Brisbane, was rescued in an RSPCA raid on a horrendous puppy farm some years back. When Ping was with her foster-carer, people would visit to apply for adoption. But she'd scuttle under a cupboard & hide. A couple I know adopted her because the husband lay down on his stomach on the floor for ages just gently talking to her. Eventually she came out. That was years ago & Ping is much better. But she still can get frightened & bolt for cover if she gets overwhelmed. Ping was parti-coloured, mainly white with red-gold markings. For the first 4 months, we all thought she had orange legs. Gradually the orange faded. Turned out to be staining because she'd lived at the puppy farm, past her knees in faeces & urine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnauzer Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 RSPCA inspector says dogs are not socialized it's a bloody puppy mill. RSPCA allows lowlife woman to keep 24 dogs, WTF does the stupid RSPCA think this lowlife is going to look after these poor dogs. ;) If the RSPCA were serious they would take all the dogs and close every puppy mill. I wonder how many of these poor dogs will pass the RSPCA temp test. Your a bloody joke RSPCA. ;) You need to get your facts straight tarope. I have worked with RSPCA on two puppy farm seizures and rehomed all the schnauzers for them. You could not work with more compassionate and caring people. Yeah right, if they were so bloody caring there wouldn't be any puppy mills in the first place. Puppy mills have been around for a long time, what has the RSPCA done - nothing. ;) There are seizures that do not make the headlines. Legislation and govt. regulation is what is needed. Most puppy farms are hidden and located in isolated areas in the country - unless complaints are made, no-one is even aware of their existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brindmek Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 (edited) Charlotte is so beautiful. We adopted one of the pups in May from this rescue from the Coffs RSPCA - she was 4 weeks old when they got her & 8 weeks when we got her, the RSPCA did a great job of integrating her & guess cos she was so young had that advantage as well. Her mum was a blenheim - wonder if Charlotte was her mum? Brindie is a most beautiful girl, we adore her - she is a ruby with a cavvie coat but pointy nose like a poodle - her 3 brothers had poodle coats ( a black one, blenheim & tri I think). We have always had cavvies & this one is so smart, learns things almost in one go. This lady at Kyogle has absolutely no emotional intelligence & should never be allowed to own any animal again - she clearly does not know how to look after animals. Anyway I hope that the rescued dogs all have great homes & are bringing joy to lots of people as they always have for us & people we meet everywhere. We take our dogs everywhere we can & especially camping at the beach. People (especially kids) come up all the time goo gaaring over the dogs. I love watching them run free & swimming - best thing for my soul and theirs. Here is Brindie & our other baby Meka. Edited February 16, 2010 by Brindmek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly_Louise Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Good on you Brindmek - glad to see another one get such a lovely home too :D And WELCOME TO DOL!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirst_goldens Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 (edited) just wanted to add that i was talking about the standard poodle that twas on the other night with my boss... he mentioned that when he contacted the RSPCA about a poodle he thought was being mistreated... they sent him pictures of the dog that was on the tv the other night....... his letter was recieved months ago... goes to show how honest and real the tv show is... I'm all for the RSPCA and what they do they doa fantastic job and i cant imagine how man very happy dogs and cats are out there thanks to them... but that was shocking - hearing that either they never looked at the poodle my boss alerted them too... or made up the poodle story on the tv the other night... one way or another something doesnt fit...hrmm And to the staements made about the RSPCA doing a crappy job... they arnt no uncaring... the individulas i have met have all been great. Again as mentioned its not the RSPCA that can end puppy farms so please think more about what you are saying and maybe research the organisation a little and hopefully you can see where we are coming from? at the end of the day the RSPCA did what they could but it is up to the magistrate as for her punishment, so that cant be held against them... and as mentioned the saved so many more then 24 so shouldnt we really be thankful that those ones got wonderful homes with caring people :D Edited February 13, 2010 by kirst_goldens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly_Louise Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Blaming the RSPCA for puppy mills is like blaming the Police for crimes, or DOCS for people that abuse their kids... It's not their FAULT that people choose to abuse. It's everyone's fault, everyone who buys from pet shops, from backyard breeders, from the newspaper, to uneducated pet owners, to selfish pet owners... it's the people who see something is wrong and may not do or say anything about it... it's the people that know it is out there and turn a blind eye. The solution is not simple - and it's up to more than just the RSPCA to stop it from happening. Not saying they don't have a key role, but they can't be everything. They may not always make the best decisions, and sometimes you bet they make mistakes, but at least they try to do something to be fair to everyone and to end cruelty. They do try to educate, they try to save neglected animals to turn their lives around, and they did that for 100 or so dogs in this case... can't knock them for that. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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