Red Fox Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 I have been reading that it is a wise idea to have some Gas X or Mylanta Gas tablets on hand if you own a breed that is prone to bloat. After Kei suffering from a very gassy upset tummy last night I though it might be a good idea for me to buy some... However looking around I haven't been able to find either of these brands anywhere. I have seen a brand named De-Gas in most supermarkets and chemists which according to the pharmacist is similar to Mylanta Gas. Does anyone know if these are safe for dogs? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 We keep De-Gas and give 1 tablet per 10 kilos of dog if they bloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted February 7, 2010 Author Share Posted February 7, 2010 (edited) Thanks Sas I'll grab some De-Gas in the morning eta: Do you give the dogs tablets if they are showing signs of being overly gassy/rumbly tummy as a preventative or only at the first signs of bloat? Edited February 7, 2010 by SecretKei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 De-Gas does nothing for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Pardon my ignorance, but these are not the same as ant-acids, are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted February 7, 2010 Author Share Posted February 7, 2010 Pardon my ignorance, but these are not the same as ant-acids, are they? From what I understand they are quite different. Mylanta Gas is not the same as normal Mylanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Good - the reason I mention is because (and I'm relating what I've heard in layman's language as I understand it) ant-acids can have the affect of thinning out the protective lining of the stomach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabs Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 De Gas is simethicone based, Very different from an antacid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Thanks Riesenhaft. Thought it was worth checking . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabs Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 It is very safe Erny, they give it to babies for colic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 i keep de gas in the grooming box,i believe the key to the right product was it must contain a certain ingredient & for the life of me i cant find that article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabrador Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 De Gas is simethicone based, Very different from an antacid. Mylanta is both an antacid and a gas medication. Degas is simethicone alone. Bloat happens in the stomach, not the bowel and I don't see how simethicone would work to prevent it. I'm happy to hear the theories though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 De Gas is simethicone based, Very different from an antacid. Mylanta is both an antacid and a gas medication. Degas is simethicone alone. Bloat happens in the stomach, not the bowel and I don't see how simethicone would work to prevent it. I'm happy to hear the theories though. I have wondered this too. My understand was that DeGas worked in the large bowel. Also I don't believe that dogs bloating is the same mechanism as a human with flatulence or bloating. When a person feels bloated, its very different to a dog bloating. But, if it doesn't hurt to give it, I guess you can only try, so by no means am I saying people shouldn't give it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 No idea, I do know people with Danes who have bloated and they have given degas and it has helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabrador Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 No idea, I do know people with Danes who have bloated and they have given degas and it has helped. How do they know it stopped bloat? A dog with a swollen tummy is not 'bloat' or gastric torsion. How does De gas prevent gastric torsion, where the gases build up in the dog's stomach and it twists? You don't know it's happened until it twists and once it's twisted and the contents can't escape, how could you possibly get a capsule into their stomach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajtek Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) Try Charcoal :D . Edited February 8, 2010 by Anna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Gastric Dilation (bloat) with Volvulus (torsion) is the correct term. A dog can bloat and not torsion, that's whay it's called Gastric Dilation with Volvulus or GDV Degas does work as it's given during the first stage of bloat before the torsion starts. Many people swear buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 What is Gastric Dilatation and Volvulus? " Gastric Dilatation" is the technical name for an abnormal accumulation of air, fluid, and/or foam in the stomach; we usually call this BLOAT. "Volvulus" refers to a dangerous twisting, rotation, or torsion of the stomach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 The reason the product was suggested in my breed was simply to try & give that extra bit of help whilst travelling to the vet or being in an area not close to facilities. Its all about timing & knowing when to get help asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I'd love to see a proper study done on it. Because as has been said, the drug is designed to work in the bowel, not the stomach and the amount of gas in a dogs' stomach when its bloating is a huge amount compared to what people get when they are bloated/gassy. Yes, dogs can be obviously bloating with having torsioned - hence why some cases can be fixed with a stomach tube. I would love to know whether it was the DeGas that dissipated the gas, or whether the fact that obviously the stomach hadn't rotated if they were able to get pills down, and the gas escaped naturally. Personally, I don't think I'd be trying to get DeGas in if Porp was bloating. For one, they're usually retching, so there's a fair chance they may not get down to the stomach anyway and secondly, if they've torsioned they won't get down. I'd assume it would take atleast 10-15mins for the capsule itself to dissolve too and the liquid to make it down and I wouldn't like to be waiting that long to see if they're gonna work. I think having a stomach tube on hand, assuming you know how to use it correctly and NOT force it if it won't get through, is much more of a possibility of doing anything. But that's just my personal opinion. I'm not saying those that say it work are wrong - I'd really like to see work done on it to know whether it was actually scientifically proven to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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