GSDowner Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I don't understand why a rational animal would attack their owner who cares for them Unless... they were not treated humanely? But then like people maybe there are dogs with mental illness? Please help me make sense out of it http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/...article1454280/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 So many possible reasons. I see dogs often that have bitten or have tried to bite their owner- leadership imbalances, learned behaviour, resource guarding, predatory drive etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSDowner Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 I was thinking that perhaps when they were locked away for few years during court proceedings they becamse somehow damaged and unhappy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Thats absolutely a possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSDowner Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 and who knows maybe he did not have them from puppyhood maybe he became their owner when they were already somehow damaged psychologically through cruel treatment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 (edited) err they were due for euthanasia because they had already attacked someone just because you own a dog and feed it means you are immune from being attacked. He owned a pack of aggressive giant dogs and from the start obviously had no control over them. Waiting to happen. ETA why does a dog have to be damaged psychologically. You own a large, guarding or hunting breed and don't control it, they usually will bully or bite you. The quality of dogs in Europe when it comes to their working instinct far surpasses what we have here in Australia. His dogs formed a pack, showed aggression and instead of being smart and at LEAST trying to get help controlling them obviously he went back to old habits and paid the price. Edited February 4, 2010 by Nekhbet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSDowner Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 Yes, like there are different people: good, bad, stable, emotionally unstable etc the same applies to dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 The fact that he owned the dogs doesn't necessarily mean that he had a social bond with them, especially after so long apart. As others have said, lots of factors could have kicked in... and three dogs is a pack. I wonder if all three were involved in the owner's death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Actually, majority of dogs allowed to form a pack and uncontrolled will exhibit territoriality, some aggressive responses and wild behavior. It is a predator, I think we become a little jaded these days thinking that all dogs need is love and a few treats and they will love you unconditionally back. OK True for some softer breeds but others will steamroll over you Being from Ljubljana he probably had them as guard dogs too and thought the behavior was useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 (edited) a rational animal Dogs aren't rational- they act as dogs, not humans who can reason and think things through to a high level. An owner- who feeds and cares for a dog may not be the person the dog RESPECTS. Feeding a dog and having interaction with it is no immunity to being attacked. Having the dog respecting an owner is helpful....not FEARING, not avoiding, but respecting. Dogs in a pack, with no definitive human leadership, will challenge. Simple. It's what dogs do. Edited February 4, 2010 by persephone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I've had a dog attack me through re-directed aggression. Unless you're there, you know the dogs you won't know why these dogs attacked their owner, there are too many virables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhou Xuanyao Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 (edited) Thats right dogs are not rational, they act and react instinctively and emotionally only - Thats why we love them so much, dogs dont lie, dogs are always honest. There are many possible reasons, my theory is probably one of the dogs was more aggressive than the others for whatever reason, and that one dogs actions would spur on the others instinctively, they then feed off each other and a small incident can turn into a frenzied attack. Having been locked away for so long the bond with the owner was weakened, they may have taken a hit to thier tempermant bieng in confinement so long, perhaps become a bit neaurotic, ect. Edited February 4, 2010 by Lo Pan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Girl Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 GSDowner I agree with the others as to this attack, its probably a variety of reasons, but some dogs can attack their owner if they are 'surprised' or 'stressed'. I read a very interesting book a couple of years ago, the author investigated a variety of international studies on dog behavioural problems. One conclusion is some dog breeds which are bred to react quickly to stimulae (such as guard dogs) which are bred to such a fine point that it may backfire and they can actually attack the owner. In one case a man was attacked when he stepped over his sleeping pitbull. Something trigged this dog and he attacked. It becomes a breeding problem and probably these lines should not be bred from, but with a demand for 'tough' dogs and BYB I can't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 which are bred to such a fine point that it may backfire and they can actually attack the owner. No that is weak nerve. Baaaaaaad breeding. Something trigged this dog and he attacked. ahh good old lack of details ... weak nerve, poor training (or attack training an innapropriate breed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Panther Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I agree with persephone. This man has gotten 3 dogs that have been agressive before and need a dominant person as a leader, stuck them together, probably left them to stew and this is the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 The guy was obviously stupid. 3 large dogs which had been involved in a vicious attack before.. maybe he had a death wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Not enough info in the article to establish any real theory as to why they attacked and killed their owner. T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frufru Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 They were the subject of a destrucrion order for aggression towards peope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I don't understand why a rational animal would attack their owner who cares for themUnless... they were not treated humanely? But then like people maybe there are dogs with mental illness? Please help me make sense out of it http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/...article1454280/ My sister lost her beloved male stafford to a brown snake and just could not bear it, so went out and bought the first male pup (that looked like Pappy) that she could find... Buddy was a cute puppy but by the age of about 20 weeks, he was shaping up to her female stafford.. I mentioned that at his young age, I thought that was very unusual... The female put him in his place but by the time he was 9-10 months old, he was bigger than her and would not take it lying down. He attacked her and then she backed down... They also had another pup (sharpei x mastiff, Tex) and Buddy used to beat up on him all the time... Very rough play to the point where the other dogs got hurt (a lot).. Fast forward to when he is 14 months old and he bailed my sister up in the yard, so she finally had him desexed (I told her it may not make any difference to him and I think he has something wrong with him)... 3 months later, my niece was calling to her mother and Buddy had her cornered and growled at my sister when she tried to move him.. She called her husband and the vet and the dog was put down an hour later in their back yard... To this very day I believe that Buddy had something wrong with him from the start.. He always walked around with his tail in the air, he would walk past you in the lounge room and look sideways at you and growl, he constantly hurt the other dogs and he always looked like he was ready to have a go at anyone or anything... I wished they had done an autopsy on him to see if he had a brain tumour or something because I really don't think a dog that is loved and cared for, just 'turns' on its owners for no reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monah Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Actually, majority of dogs allowed to form a pack and uncontrolled will exhibit territoriality, some aggressive responses and wild behavior. It is a predator, I think we become a little jaded these days thinking that all dogs need is love and a few treats and they will love you unconditionally back. OK True for some softer breeds but others will steamroll over youBeing from Ljubljana he probably had them as guard dogs too and thought the behavior was useful I think this is also true for humans! Get a footy team or 'gang' together and they definately behave differently to being on their own As much as we 'modern' humans think we understand nature, we really will NEVER know what really goes on in any animals brain, or understand the infinately many and small signals that we do not even see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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