Purebred Vs Designer Mutts Channel 9 Morning Show

[Shmurps]

Morning show on channel 9 doing a story on purebred dogs vs designer mutts after 8am. This will be interesting.

[shellbyville]

Did anyone see it? I missed it, well actually just caught the very ending, but didn't hear what Katrina Warren had to say, was it a designer dog vs purebreed argument?

[MissMolly]

Taken from the Today show site "They’re more popular than ever and they’re even outselling traditional pure-breds but are these new cross-breeds a good mix? Dr. Katrina Warren joins us with some very cute friends. "

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All i can say is that of course they are out selling pure bred dogs, because crosses are being mass produced and sold to anyone thru pet shops..

Oh and i clicked on the link on the right and came across this site.. http://www.aapdb.com/

Who are they??

[Shmurps]

Taken from the Today show site "They're more popular than ever and they're even outselling traditional pure-breds but are these new cross-breeds a good mix? Dr. Katrina Warren joins us with some very cute friends. "

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All i can say is that of course they are out selling pure bred dogs, because crosses are being mass produced and sold to anyone thru pet shops..

Oh and i clicked on the link on the right and came across this site.. http://www.aapdb.com/

Who are they??

Have no idea, I hope they are not like ACA. They will still sell to "ethical" petshops though.

[asal]

ummph just learned my brothers daughter has bought a new pup, 7 weeks maltese x chihuahua.

n funny thing, is sick and want my help

dont get it ?

if they wanted a new dog i gave them the best dog they had, well until old age caught up with him? had only told em at christmas did they want another, so if the brother of a registered breeder who can have one for free gets a pet shop job what hope do we have for encouraging the rest of the community who want a nice puppy to go to the breeder ?

buckley's, perhaps?

[shel]

Vid here:

http://today.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=1007914

[bryan_mannix]

To quote from the site linked above

What is a designer dog?

Well, it is actually a cross-bred and they are not officially considered a 'breed'. Attitudes to dogs that have parents from two different breeds have really changed in the last ten years. They are often seen as bringing the best of the breeds together but it can also bring out the worst if two dogs have the same hereditary problem such as hip dysplasia.

Why the popularity?

People look for pets that they perceive will be well suited to their living arrangements and lifestyle. The 'oodles' are very popular because it is likely that they will have a non-shedding coat but often cross-breeds are popular just because they are active, smart dogs that may be easier to care for than some of the pure-bred dogs. Unfortunately, many people fall for a cute 'made up' breed name and a bundle of fluff.

What are they like?

They can be fantastic pets. Any of the 'oodles' are part Poodle and Poodles are energetic, athletic dogs that make great family pets. Their coats may be non-shedding but they still require grooming and regular clipping. If they are crossed with a larger dog such as a Labrador or a Golden Retriever, the resulting Labradoodle or Groodle will be a large, energetic dog that requires lots of exercise, clipping and grooming.

How do I choose one?

When choosing a cross-bred puppy, meeting the parents is the best thing you can do. Consider whether one or other of their parents would suit you and if you are happy with the temperament. Also consider the puppy's likely temperament, exercise needs, grooming requirements, energy levels and whether it is mainly going to be an indoor or an outdoor dog. It is ridiculous to pay more than $1000 when you know little information about the pup you are buying.

Do they get health problems?

We have seen that crossing breeds which are not prone to the same disorders, such as hip dysplasia, eye problems etc, can reduce the chance of it appearing in any of the pups. However, if you are crossing two breeds which are predisposed to a condition that shows in their bloodline, you will certainly be setting up future generations for problems and heartbreak for owners.

The most important things dog breeders should strive to produce healthy, hardy and robust animals. Remember designer dogs are still a cross breed - albeit a carefully managed cross breed. Remember there are plenty of cross breeds at your local RSPCA shelter that don't have the fancy names and clever marketing behind them but make just as wonderful a pet.

There is an organization that has recently been set up of pet dog breeders aiming to promote responsible breeding of pet dogs such as designer dogs. More information can be found at www.petnet.com.au.

[ncarter]

I dont understand why she would go on the show and help promote designer dogs but then mention puppy farms.

And what about designer mutts inheriting different genetic diseases from both parents, she doesnt mention that.

[♪♫LMBC♫♪]

They crossed a Labrador with a toy poodle? Um..WTF??

I have to say, I am a bit disappointed to see Dr. Katrina promoting cross breeding

[ncarter]

You have to wonder who is pulling her strings. I think with the question should people buy dogs from pet shops? She wanted to say an outright 'no' but she would have been worried about the consequences.

I can just imagine now people going into PP and asking to see the parents of the puppies.

[♪♫LMBC♫♪]

Yeah she kind of contradicted herself with that one. First she says, "you must see the parents, if you can't, don't buy the puppy" then the next thing she says is that "some" petshops are ok?? She shouldn't be on tv talking about things like this if she can't back herself up. She should have just said, "No, you shouldn't buy from pet shops".

[goldchow]

The owner of the AAPDB site is one of the speakers at the Building Better Dogs seminar next Thursday. She has set up an association very very similar to the MDBA, except its for crossbreeds.

Edited February 4, 2010 by goldchow

[Kissindra]

The owner of the AAPDB site is one of the speakers at the Building Better Dogs seminar next Thursday. She has set up an association very very similar to the MDBA, except its for crossbreeds.

I've seen the forum on the AAPDB website, and some of the content as it has progressed as well as having seen legitimate complaints against a member ignored and not investigated - a hell of a LOT of work to do there before I'd compair them to anything like the MDBA.

[mokhahouse]

I dont understand why she would go on the show and help promote designer dogs but then mention puppy farms.

And what about designer mutts inheriting different genetic diseases from both parents, she doesnt mention that.

She was about to explain the trouble with crossing two breeds with health issues but got cut of by the host who felt it was more important to mention that Fernandos "thing" was showing. Arghhh Still so frustrating that she is on there advertising cross breeds and contradicted herself by saying see the parents then saying some pet shops treat their dogs well which makes it sound like she is supporting purchasing from there.

Edited February 4, 2010 by mokhahouse

[goldchow]

Yes Kissindra there's VERY big differences. It seems she's come into some sort of commercial backing and the site is being upgraded extensively before the seminar.

[Kissindra]

Yes Kissindra there's VERY big differences. It seems she's come into some sort of commercial backing and the site is being upgraded extensively before the seminar.

how interesting - I sincerely hope more money goes on research and forming and up to date knowledge base than goes on advertising.

[bryan_mannix]

I haven't watched the video so can't comment on it. But these comments from the screed below it seem quite sensible to me

What is a designer dog?

Well, it is actually a cross-bred and they are not officially considered a 'breed'. Attitudes to dogs that have parents from two different breeds have really changed in the last ten years. They are often seen as bringing the best of the breeds together but it can also bring out the worst if two dogs have the same hereditary problem such as hip dysplasia.

yep

If they are crossed with a larger dog such as a Labrador or a Golden Retriever, the resulting Labradoodle or Groodle will be a large, energetic dog that requires lots of exercise, clipping and grooming.

yep

When choosing a cross-bred puppy, meeting the parents is the best thing you can do. Consider whether one or other of their parents would suit you and if you are happy with the temperament. Also consider the puppy's likely temperament, exercise needs, grooming requirements, energy levels and whether it is mainly going to be an indoor or an outdoor dog. It is ridiculous to pay more than $1000 when you know little information about the pup you are buying.

yep

However, if you are crossing two breeds which are predisposed to a condition that shows in their bloodline, you will certainly be setting up future generations for problems and heartbreak for owners.

yep

Remember there are plenty of cross breeds at your local RSPCA shelter that don't have the fancy names and clever marketing behind them but make just as wonderful a pet.

yep

Its not all doom and gloom people!

[♪♫LMBC♫♪]

I haven't watched the video so can't comment on it. But these comments from the screed below it seem quite sensible to me

What is a designer dog?

Well, it is actually a cross-bred and they are not officially considered a 'breed'. Attitudes to dogs that have parents from two different breeds have really changed in the last ten years. They are often seen as bringing the best of the breeds together but it can also bring out the worst if two dogs have the same hereditary problem such as hip dysplasia.

yep

If they are crossed with a larger dog such as a Labrador or a Golden Retriever, the resulting Labradoodle or Groodle will be a large, energetic dog that requires lots of exercise, clipping and grooming.

yep

When choosing a cross-bred puppy, meeting the parents is the best thing you can do. Consider whether one or other of their parents would suit you and if you are happy with the temperament. Also consider the puppy's likely temperament, exercise needs, grooming requirements, energy levels and whether it is mainly going to be an indoor or an outdoor dog. It is ridiculous to pay more than $1000 when you know little information about the pup you are buying.

yep

However, if you are crossing two breeds which are predisposed to a condition that shows in their bloodline, you will certainly be setting up future generations for problems and heartbreak for owners.

yep

Remember there are plenty of cross breeds at your local RSPCA shelter that don't have the fancy names and clever marketing behind them but make just as wonderful a pet.

yep

Its not all doom and gloom people!

Yes, but that's not at all what the video looked like, and most people who saw it on TV wouldn't bother looking up the website.

[Jed]

The owner of the AAPDB site is one of the speakers at the Building Better Dogs seminar next Thursday. She has set up an association very very similar to the MDBA, except its for crossbreeds.

Crossing Beagles with Cavaliers and having an "ethical" website is an oxymoron, surely?? Diametrically opposed anyhow

Goldchow

Yes Kissindra there's VERY big differences. It seems she's come into some sort of commercial backing and the site is being upgraded extensively before the seminar.

Could be the backing of a disgruntled gardner. He always fancied himself as running an organisation in opposition to the ANKC. Remember when he asked registered breeders to join him in another organisation?

In hindsight, I think it would have been an excellent idea.

The "old boys" running the CCs seem to be lost in the 19th century, with shows and afternoon teas, and nice registrations. They haven't demonstrated any ability to cope with, and steer their organisations through the stormy waters of 2000s. I think the gardener could do that, and do it well.

He'd prefer a heap of ANKC dogs to some abbadabbadoo ones. After all, his promotion of DD was simply to spite the ANKC

*scuttles down the back to hide*

Edited February 4, 2010 by Jed

[mita]

ummph just learned my brothers daughter has bought a new pup, 7 weeks maltese x chihuahua.

n funny thing, is sick and want my help

dont get it ?

if they wanted a new dog i gave them the best dog they had, well until old age caught up with him? had only told em at christmas did they want another, so if the brother of a registered breeder who can have one for free gets a pet shop job what hope do we have for encouraging the rest of the community who want a nice puppy to go to the breeder ?

You're so right, asal. Beggars belief, when they already had the experience of getting the best of dogs from a good breeder....you!

I wouldn't blame you for pointing out loud & clear how your niece brought this problem on herself. Poor little mite of a 'designed' crossbreed, born out of profit & no knowledge, is the innocent victim.

I just got a new adult dog, from a good registered breeder who loves and socialises her dogs as pets. With all the benefits.

Predictability....the little dog is true to the best of her breed's characteristics, piles of support from the breeder on everything from diet to grooming to health maintenance, loads of information about her ancestors (Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, UK champions in her bloodline).

Best of all, because she's been so much loved & treated as family already.....she slipped fantastically into her new home.

Couldn't agree more with you.....why, why would anyone go anywhere else than to the good registered breeders who do it right by the dog & by the breed???

I had to insist to this breeder that she take payment for this lovely, lovely dog she raised.

Edited February 5, 2010 by mita