Kavik Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 I don't think that Dutchies are an eligible breed for Schutzhund competition are they???.Great looking dogs Dutchies have now been recognised by the ANKC and so dogs with FCI papers can get them registered with the ANKC. I assume this means that they are eligible for SchH now in this country as they would fall under FCI eligible breeds? Dutchies are not listed on the FCI eligible Schutzhund breeds overseas either to my knowledge???. Obviously they would have great sporting potential but I couldn't find any entered in the results of any overseas Schutzhund tournaments???. BREEDS ELIGIBLE FOR SCHUTZHUND TRAINING German Shepherd Dog, Boxer, Dobermann, Rottweiler, Giant Schnauzer, Airedale Terrier, Bouvier Des Flandres, Hovawart, Belgian Shepherd (Groendael, Malinois, Tervueren, Laekenois), Berger de Beauce, Berger de Brie, Berger Des Pyrenees A Face Rase, Berger Des Pyrenees A Museau Normal, Berger Picard, Lapinkoira, Suomenpystykorva The breeds above are the current FCI listing??? So you can do Schutzhund with a Finnish Spitz and a Finnish Lapphund (which I have never heard of doing any sort of manwork) but not a Dutch Shepherd (which are famous for KNVP)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcoat Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 I don't think that Dutchies are an eligible breed for Schutzhund competition are they???.Great looking dogs Dutchies have now been recognised by the ANKC and so dogs with FCI papers can get them registered with the ANKC. I assume this means that they are eligible for SchH now in this country as they would fall under FCI eligible breeds? Dutchies are not listed on the FCI eligible Schutzhund breeds overseas either to my knowledge???. Obviously they would have great sporting potential but I couldn't find any entered in the results of any overseas Schutzhund tournaments???. BREEDS ELIGIBLE FOR SCHUTZHUND TRAINING German Shepherd Dog, Boxer, Dobermann, Rottweiler, Giant Schnauzer, Airedale Terrier, Bouvier Des Flandres, Hovawart, Belgian Shepherd (Groendael, Malinois, Tervueren, Laekenois), Berger de Beauce, Berger de Brie, Berger Des Pyrenees A Face Rase, Berger Des Pyrenees A Museau Normal, Berger Picard, Lapinkoira, Suomenpystykorva The breeds above are the current FCI listing??? So you can do Schutzhund with a Finnish Spitz and a Finnish Lapphund (which I have never heard of doing any sort of manwork) but not a Dutch Shepherd (which are famous for KNVP)? It appears so???. Some KNPV Malinois are not eligible either I was told once, something to do with their pedigree???. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Jones Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 I don't think that Dutchies are an eligible breed for Schutzhund competition are they???.Great looking dogs Dutchies have now been recognised by the ANKC and so dogs with FCI papers can get them registered with the ANKC. I assume this means that they are eligible for SchH now in this country as they would fall under FCI eligible breeds? Dutchies are not listed on the FCI eligible Schutzhund breeds overseas either to my knowledge???. Obviously they would have great sporting potential but I couldn't find any entered in the results of any overseas Schutzhund tournaments???. BREEDS ELIGIBLE FOR SCHUTZHUND TRAINING German Shepherd Dog, Boxer, Dobermann, Rottweiler, Giant Schnauzer, Airedale Terrier, Bouvier Des Flandres, Hovawart, Belgian Shepherd (Groendael, Malinois, Tervueren, Laekenois), Berger de Beauce, Berger de Brie, Berger Des Pyrenees A Face Rase, Berger Des Pyrenees A Museau Normal, Berger Picard, Lapinkoira, Suomenpystykorva The breeds above are the current FCI listing??? So you can do Schutzhund with a Finnish Spitz and a Finnish Lapphund (which I have never heard of doing any sort of manwork) but not a Dutch Shepherd (which are famous for KNVP)? It appears so???. Some KNPV Malinois are not eligible either I was told once, something to do with their pedigree???. You can not title a KNPV line Malinois / Dutch Shepherd because they will not have FCI pedigree papers. KNPV line dogs are normally Mechelse Herder X Hollandse Herder (Belgian X Dutch Shepherds). It is rather funny though as having a Belgian / Dutch Shepherd with FCI papers is no guarantee it is purebred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Yeah I know KNVP dogs can't compete, but I thought the ones with FCI papers (and can get ANKC papers) would be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Jones Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 AFAIK they can, they fall under the same category as the Belgian Shepherd. The list that has been put up in this thread is stating "recommended / common breeds" of dog that are eligible to compete in Schutzhund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Age Outlaw Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 The RAAF at Amberley is tendering out some of their dogs (they do this with the ones that are surplus to requirements) and I went there this morning for the viewing (a mate of mine is looking to get a German Shepherd), and what do you think I saw there? A Dutch Shepherd! Apparently they had some there they were trialling as a potential breed to work with (currently they have GSDs and Belgian Malinois). I had never seen one in the flesh before...he was a beautiful looking dog!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Jones Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Yes, I can see a need for trialing them as they are completely different to Belgian Shepherds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aus_k9gsd Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 The RAAF at Amberley is tendering out some of their dogs (they do this with the ones that are surplus to requirements) and I went there this morning for the viewing (a mate of mine is looking to get a German Shepherd), and what do you think I saw there? A Dutch Shepherd! Apparently they had some there they were trialling as a potential breed to work with (currently they have GSDs and Belgian Malinois). I had never seen one in the flesh before...he was a beautiful looking dog!!! they have the brother and sister to my dog. My friend bred the litter, the mother is just gorgeous as well. I have 3 of them here at he moment from the litter, one of which is a blue she is so pretty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirawee Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 (edited) So you can do Schutzhund with a Finnish Spitz and a Finnish Lapphund (which I have never heard of doing any sort of manwork) but not a Dutch Shepherd (which are famous for KNVP)? As a Finnish Lapphund owner I seriously could not imagine them doing any manwork ;) At most they would stand at a distance and bark But then a Finnish Lapphund is acually Suomenlapinkoira not Lapinkoira ETA: Maybe they just used Lapinkoira to specify either Finnish (Suomenlapinkoira) or Swedish (Ruotsinlapinkoira) Lapphunds? But since they are different breeds you would think they would be listed seperately - not that I think either could do Schutzhund :D Edited April 10, 2010 by mirawee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aus_k9gsd Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 here are some more pics of Ice, she is growing so fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 Wow, she's beautiful Minchie! Keep us updated on Ice as she grows, I'm sure you have big plans for her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeral Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 She is just gorgeous Minchie. How old is she? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aus_k9gsd Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Wow, she's beautiful Minchie!Keep us updated on Ice as she grows, I'm sure you have big plans for her! Thanks SecretKei she is a great little pup, I will definately keep you updated on her Thanks Laeral, she would only be about 8 weeks old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vendo Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I'm interested in learning more about the Dutch Shepherd but having trouble finding much info on them (well in English anyway lol).They dont seem to be very common here in Australia at all! Does anyone know much about them or where to find some reliable information? Thanks try CK9SAS or Working Dutch shepherds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 (edited) Hi vendo ;) It's Lia from Specialist Canines Edited April 27, 2010 by Kavik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artur Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 (edited) I'm interested in learning more about the Dutch Shepherd but having trouble finding much info on them (well in English anyway lol).They dont seem to be very common here in Australia at all! Does anyone know much about them or where to find some reliable information? Thanks our pup at 8 months Edited May 5, 2010 by artur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 They're certainly pretty dogs. Nearly as pretty as the mallies. Don't think we have any in NZ yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arawnhaus Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 (edited) here are some more pics of Ice, she is growing so fast Awww....Precious cheeky pups! Edited May 5, 2010 by arawnhaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artur Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 (edited) [ Edited May 5, 2010 by artur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aus_k9gsd Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 They're certainly pretty dogs. Nearly as pretty as the mallies. Don't think we have any in NZ yet. The brother to mine went to NZ I will get some more photos of her as she has grown so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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