kateshep Posted January 24, 2010 Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 No. Even choke collars are banned from most clubs I have been to. You may have to have one on one training until you wean your dog into a normal collar.I also had a dog with a similar issue to the one you descibe with your shepard, I took 3 months just working on this issue using positive reinforcement. I taught my dog a watch command and rewarded him for watching me, slowly building up the stimulus from just being in a room with my other dog, to being at a park with the smell of strange dogs to being 300,200,100m away and kept building up, just rewarding him for focusing on me. Now he trains at agility offlead with many dogs in high drive around, I did not need to bully my dog into paying attention to me. seriously nobody knows any clubs That is your dog, not mine. As mentioned techniques used in training imho should be adapted to the dog, not the other way around. Don't assume I haven't been there already with those teachniques and that I bully my dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I wish everyone knew that Huski . Back in the 90's we had a prong collar that we used on our girl, but I was a child and couldnt use it properly so we brought a Halti -headcollar, so there was no chance of me unintentionally hurting her. People used to think she was so vicious wearing 'a muzzle' . I must admit that is my only expirence of them and the memory is probably tainted by me being so young. Apologies to the OP as that did come across as a bit rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I wish everyone knew that Huski . Back in the 90's we had a prong collar that we used on our girl, but I was a child and couldnt use it properly so we brought a Halti -headcollar, so there was no chance of me unintentionally hurting her. People used to think she was so vicious wearing 'a muzzle' . I must admit that is my only expirence of them and the memory is probably tainted by me being so young. Apologies to the OP as that did come across as a bit rude. I actually can't stand head collars, I used one on Micha years ago and he found it highly aversive. I've never seen a dog trained properly on a prong react even close to the way he did on a head collar. Head collars wouldn't work if they weren't aversive, and IMO, have more risk of injury to the dog than a prong collar, because of the neck/spine damage they can cause. But that's getting off topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Jones Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I agree to an extent but some of these devices are only a bandage and not a solutuion. Any tool should always be used in conjunction with a training program No tool should ever be used as a quick fix or as an alternative to training. How absurd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) How absurd! Are you being literal, Jeff? I just meant that no tool should be used as an alternative to training, as in, no one should just chuck a tool on their dog without really understanding how it works and knowing how to use it properly. I see too many people chuck tools on their dogs without understanding how to use them. i.e. people who put head collars on their dogs and use them as a bandaid, with no understanding of how to use it properly - where as soon as the head collar comes off the dog starts pulling again and they become dependent on forever walking their dog on a head collar. Edited January 24, 2010 by huski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Jones Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 How absurd! Are you being literal, Jeff? I just meant that no tool should be used as an alternative to training, as in, no one should just chuck a tool on their dog without really understanding how it works and knowing how to use it properly. I see too many people chuck tools on their dogs without understanding how to use them. i.e. people who put head collars on their dogs and use them as a bandaid, with no understanding of how to use it properly - where as soon as the head collar comes off the dog starts pulling again and they become dependent on forever walking their dog on a head collar. Sorry post was made with tongue in cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 How absurd! Are you being literal, Jeff? I just meant that no tool should be used as an alternative to training, as in, no one should just chuck a tool on their dog without really understanding how it works and knowing how to use it properly. I see too many people chuck tools on their dogs without understanding how to use them. i.e. people who put head collars on their dogs and use them as a bandaid, with no understanding of how to use it properly - where as soon as the head collar comes off the dog starts pulling again and they become dependent on forever walking their dog on a head collar. Sorry post was made with tongue in cheek. thanks for being a tease, Jeff :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateshep Posted January 24, 2010 Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 Apologies to the OP as that did come across as a bit rude. Ok, no worries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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