2x2 Weaves Query

[Kavik]

Ok I have watched the 2x2 weave pole DVD and now watching it again to get a better understanding of the steps and when you move to the next step.

I am a bit confused about when you move them to straight. I get that you do 2 o'clock and 8 o'clock with 2 then 4 poles then move the poles closer together, then rotate again? and then close the distance again. Do you close the distance so that they are at competition distnce while they are at say 1 o'clock and 7 o'clock and then rotate them to straight or later? Just a bit confused as in the DVD the dog gets it so fast

Does that make sense?

Edited January 22, 2010 by Kavik

[bordacollies4me]

when you have them at 1 to 7 oclock, and normal gaps(so when they are rotated straight they will be correct distance), thats when you close em up... sometimes though i have found that it can be easier to close one set, then the other... Coco struggled with entries so i closed the last 2 poles then the first 2, with GT i had to close the first 2 then the last 2.. with Focus i straightened em all at once... really depends on the individual dog, i think the most important thing is to not have them at say 1-7 for any length of time, beacuse the dogs really do pattern the poles, so they need to be straight asap, if not 4 than at least 2 poles IMO...

the dog in the dvd got them quick because that is how quick it can be...

[Kavik]

Thanks for that Makes sense

I meant it was quick in that it was hard to pick the transition and I didn't quite understand the explanation

Edited January 22, 2010 by Kavik

[Kavik]

OK from the transcript - this is what confuses me:

Stage 7:

Move the poles closer together (about 48 inches apart) and rotate the poles to

1 o’clock and 7 o’clock. The poles will stay this distance apart. Gradually rotate

both sets of the poles a little bit at a time, but make sure to keep them at

approximately the same angle and on the reward line, until eventually you have

four poles in a straight line. Then just move the two bases together so you now

have competition-spaced weave poles.

Chapter 6 - Proofing and Closing the Poles

Don’t go to four straight poles yet. You will find that the more your dog

fails, the more you tend to stay toward the center of the pie - you’re not

going to work that arc because you’ll have more failures, and you’re not

going to like to see it; your dog’s going to get unhappy. The dog will

shape you to make it easier and stay right in the center of those four

poles. To avoid doing that, stay at this stage for at least another day or

two until the dog gets the idea to find the entry and drive forward.

[JulesP]

Kavik the step before Chapter 6 is going to a new location. When you do that you open the poles up again as you are in a new place. And you go through the steps again that you did at home.

Chapter 5 explains that you are going to a new location.

Does that make sense?

[Kavik]

So you close them up at home, and then when you go to a new location you open them up again? And then work to closing them?

Edited January 22, 2010 by Kavik

[JulesP]

Yep that is right.

[Kavik]

Cool thanks that clarifies it a lot

[JulesP]

No worries