pikespooches Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 (edited) Lately we have been able to transport dogs on interstate trucks which is a huge help. Some will carry them in the cabin, some insist they are in a box but do not want to use a crate as they need to return it so prefer to use a carboard box with ventilation holes. Some have "dog Boxes" which whilst are not airconditioned are designed to carry dogs. Some put the dogs into the tool boxes on the side of the truck. Are all these safe, legal, ethical? If an insepctor from RSPCA or the police were to find this would there be any breaches? edited for spelling Edited January 10, 2010 by pikespooches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Some put the dogs into the tool boxes on the side of the truck. If that sounds the way it reads why would anyone allow a dog to travel that way help or not?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Yikes That sounds like a recipe for disaster IMO No way would I risk my dog. Can you maybe ask if someone can take take him with them on a flight? Much safer I would think. Lately we have been able to transport dogs on interstate trucks which is a huge help. Some will carry them in the cabin, some insist they are in a box but do not want to use a crate as they need to return it so prefer to use a carboard box with ventilation holes.Some have "dog Boxes" which whilst are not airconditioned are designed to carry dogs. Some put the dogs into the tool boxes on the side of the truck. Are all these safe, legal, ethical? If an insepctor from RSPCA or the police were to find this would there be any breaches? edited for spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Some 'dog boxes' are well thought out- with adequate ventilation- well away from anything hot, and have rubber matting/carpeting. Others I have seen are just metal ..which would be very noisy/hot and stifling. No way would I permit a dog in my care to travel in one of these truck 'dog box' in the warmer weather I am also worried that if the dogs are unused to this form of travel- it could be very stressful Stock carriers etc I know of, train their pups up to travelling like this- and the dogs are fine... but normal pet dogs- no ,I would not do it. Cardboard cartons are also flimsy things- I would worry about escape..either chewing/or after urinating and making cardboard soggy :D I know it must be frustrating trying to find suitable transport- I'm sorry.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greytmate Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Putting the dogs into tool boxes is not a good idea. They normally have a mesh side, so there would be no protection for the dog from loose gravel coming off the road when other vehicles pass. Crates are really the best way to keep the dogs safe if the the crates can be secured in the cabin. I would work on ways to retrieve the crates to make it easier for the drivers to use them. It is very nice of them to transport the dogs for you. I am not sure of the legalities of keeping a dog in a toolbox, but keeping one unrestrained in the cabin is illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula- Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 These are poundies? I would only transport in a crate, making sure they were quarantined first so the driver doesn't have to worry about infecting his truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikespooches Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 It is more for me personally to get an idea if what I am feeling uneasy about I should be. I don;t like the idea of a toolbox as it is for tools not stock or dogs in my view. I prefer to use a crate for younger dogs and older ones should be able to be secured into the bunk or spare seat with an appropriate harness etc. I will not be physically putting a dog into anything that is unsafe. But I do appreaciate that these people do want to offer help! And no not poundies we will not allow a driver of ours to place an unquarantined dog into a truck. Boxes are teh really heavy type at times reinforced and lined with paper and bedding. The drivers do take them out to toilet alng the journey. It is the tool box that bothers me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greytmate Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 For larger dogs you could provide a harness and a seat cover and a prepaid post satchel to send the equipment back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 There are specific laws for anyone transporting animals.Hang on Ill try and dig them out.Unless its in a crate in the cabin I wouldnt consider it.It places the dog and the driver at risk.We own a freight and removal company and I wouldnt consider having an animal anywhere else but with the driver - especially in this weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 NSW. 3. Transport 3.1 Containers 3.1.1 Containers for transport must be small enough to avoid self-induced trauma, but should be spacious enough for the animals to turn around. 3.1.2 All animals should be confined in transit to ensure their security. 3.1.3 Containers must be able to be readily cleaned and disinfected. 3.1.4 Each individual container must be fitted with a secure closing device that cannot be opened by the animal(s) held. 3.1.5 IATA guidelines apply to air travel. 3.1.6 Containers should be strong enough to withstand stacking and general handling and constructed to provide adequate ventilation and light. 3.1.7 The interior walls of containers must be smooth, flat, and not subject to splintering. 3.2 Temperature 3.2.1 Animals must be protected from extremes of temperature, and the environmental temperature should be controlled to minimise distress to animals. 3.2.2 Very old and very young animals which are more sensitive than others to changes in temperature may require provision of heating or cooling. 3.3 Noise Loud or sudden noise which may distress animals should be avoided. 3.4 Ventilation Ventilation must be sufficient to avoid dampness and draughts, and minimise noxious odours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 I wouldn't travel a dog who is not used to it in a dog box. I wouldn't transport a dog in the cabin with someone they didn't know either. I would also not be comfortable with an unknown person removing a dog from it's crate/seatbelt for toileting incase they got away (I know the dog would need a toilet break). I would only be comfortable flying them or sending them with someone I know. I know that doesn't help you much and these people are trying to help out, but the idea of my dog potentially loose in the middle of knowhere with an unkown person trying to catch them is the stuff of nightmares to me. Goodluck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikespooches Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 ok great thanks guys. Now how to stop this happening, I have since found out people are transporting pound dogs this way also. Some may be done properly but others not. I tend to fly mine but have had a few go on trucks with drivers that put them in the cabin secured but refused crates.. I do not like the idea of a dog box or tool box presonally and thus do not take this option, but I am concerned for the animals going this way. How can it be stopped? Should there be a sticky somwhere on guidelines on animal transportation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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