Can You Suggest A Breed?

[Jed]

But with poodles, how often would the average person even see one in a full show clip? Rarely, I suspect. So rarely that they would stop to take a second or third look. They might think they look "silly" (I personally think they look amazing) but I'd bet pounds to peanuts they'd be able to count on one hand the amount of times they've seen one being walked in public.

On the other hand, poodles are popular pets that most people wouldn't even realise was a poodle if they saw one because the vast majority of them AREN'T kept in a show clip. Due to the mass media, a lot of peoplke would see a purebred poodle and just assume it's a maltipoopenschnoodledoodle.

That's the thing, poodles have never been associated with the short clip in media, dog shows or dog breed books, the poodles in the show clip are the ones people identify as poodles because there has never been a concentrated effort to change the image, they only have to see it once or twice in a this context to cement the 'image' of the poodle, similar to the 'handbag' association that chis have. I think so much could be done to show how versatile these dogs can be and how versatile their look can be.

What small breed won the agility at the Purina World Dog Games.. a poodle. What breed will you see at many agility and obedience trials - the poodle. What sort of clip does the average poodle walking around the burbs and at the dog park wear - not the show one, that's for sure.

They've been army mascots, circus dogs, truffle dogs, guide dogs, assistance dogs and treasured family pets for a long time.

Many images of poodles are of those in lamb clip. But folk get hung up on the show clip.

And now one of the most people focussed, affectionate breeds suffers in those nightmares of puppy farms to produce cute fluffy pups for people who "don't want a foofy dog". :D:

Buying a dog should be an important decision which requires some research. I think it is a pity that people don't do research before they buy.

My sister owned a silver miniature poodle when her boys were growing up. She was happy to rough it in the backyard playing rugby, fetching, or just joining in the general melee and barking her head off, or swimming in the pond with umpteen teenage boys, as good family dogs should.

Coco was also happy to have her toenails painted hot pink, wear a very upmarket bow and rhinestone collar and lead and be a total lady at very upmarket cocktail parties, or ladies soirees, and was well known for her excellent behaviour and general "socialness". She had her photo in Womens Weekly quite a few times. As all poodles, she was a dog for all seasons. If people did their homework, and knew enough not to follow the recommendations of a gardener, they would be a lot better off with their choice of dog.

There's a tradie who lives around here somewhere who has two standard poodles in the back of his Triton - one apricot, one white, in full show clip. What an impressive sight they are.

I know a delightful cocker x poodle - Harry is chocolate, and a great little dog. However, he could be a purebred poodle, he has all the poodle attributes, can't see any cocker at all. He came from the pet shop, parents had no health checks at all, think they simply should have bought a poodle. Would have been cheaper, anyhow.

Also, worth checking out the Portugese Water dog. They have "serious" looking clips, and nice natures. They do shed, but minimally.

Edited January 8, 2010 by Jed

[felix]

maltipoopenschnoodledoodle.

Priceless! :D

[Monah]

PWDs are one of my all time favourite breeds and I WILL have one one day ;)

I'm a little surprised how important 'looks' are to this person. Yes, of course we all favour looks etc. but really you have to put temp. etc. and looks together.

Poodles, no matter what 'haircut' they have, are fantastic dogs. I"d be more worried about energy etc. suitability. Poodles, Portugese (who also lay claim to what some consider an awful clip), and most other curly coated breeds (terriers etc) have enormous exercise and stimulaiton requirements. I really don't understand why the 'look of the coat' is a priority, but I can see that the appearance of the dog is a start.

I have an aquaintence who bought a 'labradoodle' several years ago, it looks EXACTLY like a lab, and when it got to adulthood with no 'curls' etc. she was very disappointed. Poor dog, it's lovely, but not what they 'wanted'

[Red Fox]

That 'show' clip that sends most people into a flat spin has a practical basis for a dog bred to work in freezing water.. that fluffy jacket, the poms on joints and kidneys and the shorter hair on the back end aided keeping the dog warm while swimming.

Thanks for that PF. I always wondered why poodles have pom-poms It actually makes a lot of sense when explained like that

Someone posted a photo here recently of a poodle with corded dreads on his head then clipped off short everywhere else. It looked awesome! Definitely not a foofy poodle ;)

[poodlemum]

Its a haircut people - get over it!!!!

I might agree - but it puts many people off becasue they think that is how poodles look - when poodles don't look froo-froo in their natural state.

The whole DD thing has really taken off because people want a poodle that doesn't look like a poodle

I'm sorry but if ones decision to purchase a particular breed of dog is based entirely on the fact that is has a particular haircut in a very specialised environment like the show ring - then you really shouldn't be buying any dog. You should be looking for a breed of dog that meets your requirements in terms of, temperament, grooming, exercise, need for training and socialbility with people and or other dogs.

Personally - I think the poodle that escapes being part of such a shallow family is a lucky poodle.

A poodle left in "its natural state" would quickly become matted and in this climate probably suffer from fly strike. Yes you can let a poodles hair grow but it has to be groomed often as does any low shedding dog.

Going off to take Mr Frou Frou for a walk!!!!

WELL-SAID

[westiemum]

bertandsally well done for persevering - as you said early onn until she actually buys a ridiculous DD there is still hope that you may be able to get her to change her mind....

I have had a huge defeat in trying to persuade an older rello to not buy a cavalier poodle cross - they were in a town south of Adelaide and I did my best to persuade them 'by correspondence' - sadly it didn't work - they now have a cavalier poodle cross with bad behavioural problems including separation anxiety (and had to hide to ask me for advice!! But thats another story...)

I have had one major victory in persuading another potential cavalier poodle cross buyer to consider a purebred - and that one was easy - an hour or so conversation and then some hours with my westies. Bingo! Victory! Job done! And she's as happy as larry with her new westie puppy who she waited almost ten months for after selecting her breeder.

Any chance you could have her meet a couple of good purebreds? Nothing seems to change 'set' minds like some handling and personal experience. Just a thought.

Good luck!!

Edited January 10, 2010 by westiemum

[Shmurps]

Sadly, I think the Doodles are here to stay.

Today in the paper Staffy X Pug .

[Snout Girl]

Sadly, I think the Doodles are here to stay.

Today in the paper Staffy X Pug .

now that just creeps me out!

[Snout Girl]

I may be getting somewhere!

We have been looking at lagotto's on the net and my workmate seems interested.

can anyone tell me approx how much a lagotto from a registered, reputable breeder would be?

[whitka]

Sadly, I think the Doodles are here to stay.

Today in the paper Staffy X Pug .

now that just creeps me out!

Got one of those in my bfs backyard, it's my housemates dog.

No DD is ever the same even in litters. My girl CJ is a DD (labxgolden) and we have heard that some of her litter mates have been real nervy type dogs one has even snapped at people, with CJ she loves everyone but can be a real handfull.

[poodlefan]

I may be getting somewhere!

We have been looking at lagotto's on the net and my workmate seems interested.

can anyone tell me approx how much a lagotto from a registered, reputable breeder would be?

Probably $2000+ for a pet. I did say they had a hefty price tag. Waaay more expensive than a well bred poodle, that's for sure.

You may find this thread of use.

Edited January 12, 2010 by poodlefan

[Nevafollo]

That 'show' clip that sends most people into a flat spin has a practical basis for a dog bred to work in freezing water.. that fluffy jacket, the poms on joints and kidneys and the shorter hair on the back end aided keeping the dog warm while swimming.

Thanks for that PF. I always wondered why poodles have pom-poms It actually makes a lot of sense when explained like that

Someone posted a photo here recently of a poodle with corded dreads on his head then clipped off short everywhere else. It looked awesome! Definitely not a foofy poodle

Learn something new everyday, I had no idea there was a practical use for their clip. Very interesting

[poodlefan]

That 'show' clip that sends most people into a flat spin has a practical basis for a dog bred to work in freezing water.. that fluffy jacket, the poms on joints and kidneys and the shorter hair on the back end aided keeping the dog warm while swimming.

Thanks for that PF. I always wondered why poodles have pom-poms It actually makes a lot of sense when explained like that

Someone posted a photo here recently of a poodle with corded dreads on his head then clipped off short everywhere else. It looked awesome! Definitely not a foofy poodle

Learn something new everyday, I had no idea there was a practical use for their clip. Very interesting

Portuguese Water Dogs share a similar clip ..

Edited to add Best Website on Poodle History Note the clip on the dog in the woodcut on the home page.

Edited January 12, 2010 by poodlefan

[Gayle.]

Give Pauleen a ring, she has a litter ready to go right now.

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