Normal Behaviour After Desexing?

[Karelea Aussies]

Hope she is back to normal now. ;) Thank goodness you don't have to go through that again.

Good point.

She is still in the way too small doughnut bed and has been there since we came home from the Vet. I am going to try to get her out to water, feed and wee. The one good thing that has come from this is that I know she is fully toilet trained (we have a doggy door and she has always had free access to come and go as she pleases), that she has excellent bladder control, and that she can spend all night in her crate without going nuts.

[dancinbcs]

Border Collies can get quite skittish after being speyed as well, so maybe it's more of a breed type/personality type.

It's fairly standard that she may have had Torbugesic or Morphine in her premed but they are very short acting 4-8hrs. Rimadyl is stock standard for mature bitch speys as the ovaries and uterus are BIG after one or two seasons, and there may already be some ovarian cysts there.

Interesting as I have never heard of this in Border collies or the use of Rimadyl in mature bitches. I have had three older BC bitches speyed with no trouble and no Rimadyl and one definitely had ovarian cysts. Between my breeder friends there have been dozens or retired breeding bitches done over the years with no one ever mentioning a problem with either behaviour or drugs.

[ness]

Neither of my BC girls acted skittish after being desexed either and neither were giving Rimadyl and my youngster had had 1 season before being done.

[piper]

Only thing that created a problem with Piper was the cone head collar, she had a major freak out over that and I wished I hadn't put it in her as she had been fine before hand but as I wasn't going to be able to supervise I decided it would be better with it on.

Neither of my boys were a problem either, Ricky was very quiet after his but he always seemd to come out of anaesthetic a bit slower than any others. All 3 though had pretty much normal behaviour very quickly and had to be watched to prevent them over doing it.

[Brom]

Our 13 month old Aussie was spayed on Wednesday morning. She has been tested for MDR1 and is classed as affected with mutant/normal results.

When I picked her up after the op, she was showing what I would believe to be fairly normal behaviour associated with the pain killers and anasthetic ie: very sleepy and off balance when walking, obvious discomfort, lack of appetite.

She was prescribed Rimadyl for pain relief at 1/2 tablet per day which were to be started Thursday morning. Thursday she pretty much slept unitl 1pm and I gave her the tablet about 2.pm. Later in the day she seemed to become very erratic....moving very little but darting around whe she did so, jumping up onto outdoor setting chairs, which she has never done even when she should be jumping, trying to climb into shopping bags (the green woolies bags), hiding in bushes. I thought the combination of anashthetic and

Rimadyl may have been too much for her system and she seemed....high. Jumpy, odd behaviour and pupils were dilated. I did some googling of Rimadyl and while I could not find it listed as a drug to be wary of on (in relation to MDR1) any of the web sites I looked at, I did read that a DOL poster advised against it for dogs who are MDR1 affected. She continued to act strangely so for her safety we kept her crated.

Yesterday morning was the same behaviour and by late afternoon she seemed to come round, walking normally and even tried it on for a game of tug. She had a quiet evening and a peaceful night and seemed to be back to normal, and while the darting around had stopped, she was moving a bit tentatively.

This morning she seemed to be fine, although quiet and by 2pm was back to being jumpy and unsettled and tonight we are back to doing strange things. After running outside it has taken over an hour to get her out of the bushes and back inside.

I am going to ring the Vets in the morning but am wondering if anyone has seen this behaviour in their dogs when desexed or does it seem odd. I am worried the drugs may not be wearing off like they should. I am also wary of giving her the pain killers due to what I have read in regard to Rimadyl and MDR1. My vets were not familiar with MDR1 prior to having Tilly as a patient, so am worried they might have missed some important info before prescribing the Rimadyl.

Any thoughts ?

Hello thelinks,

We have a male 6 month old Briard who was desexed last Tuesday and is showing very disturbing abnormal behaviour which we were amazed to find is exactly the same as that described by you. He is hyperactive and hides in bushes, races over the furniture and beds and seems generally "spaced out"! He seems to have forgotten a lot and we worry about possible brain damage.

Saw the Vet today (Saturday) who found no obvious physical problems but thought that it may have been a reaction to the anaesthetic!?

We are really worried about our dog and would be very interested to know the outcome of the same problem that you had with your bitch - would appreciate any advice that you can give.

Regards,

Brom