Winterpaws Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Hey guys A friend has a BC x Poodle ( a Boodle? LOL) Anyway the coat is thick,long and curly - a bit what you see on cross breeds I suspect. They've recently moved to the country and because their is access to a dam the coat is really badly matted. She is loath to clip the coat in case it does not grow back as well Any tips of getting through matts? If I can help her save the coat I will - though my preference is to clip it and keep it short Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisovar Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 If they have let it get in this state now, I'd clip it off and keep it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 If the coat is badly matted, it will be an ordeal for the dog to have matts individually split and removed. Clip it off and hopefully they'll keep the grooming up while it grows back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Clipping the coat off will have absolutely no effect on it growing back. It does not affect the hair follicles under the skin which make the coat grow. Kindest option. The only way to remove knots is to comb & brush through inch by inch. Matts have to be shaved off. An long ordeal for the dog & will hurt. Hope they clip it & have more sense in future caring for the coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vehs Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 go with your preference to clip and keep it short my friend, who I have to say sucks at grooming - but loves her dogs, moved out to a property earlier this year - GR got a sh-tload of grass seeds and combined with daily dam swimming was a complete mess - sibe has had his belly shaved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingduster Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 shave it off. It's not fair to try and break up the mats if they're that bad! Shaving DOES affect the coat if done a lot on a naturally shedding breed, but being crossed with a poodle it may or may not be a coat that needs clipped a bit anyway, and if she can't maintain a long coat, then it needs to be clipped for the dogs sake; vanity for wanting the coat to look good when the dog is matted just isn't fair. If it only needs clipped off this once, then the coat will come back in fine. if it's continually clipped back short, it may or may not cause the coat to come back in thicker and woollier. It's hard to say really, cos being a cross it might not affect the coat like it does on other shedding breeds, but certainly shaving it once won't affect it noticably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevafollo Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) Yep another vote for clip it, not worth putting the dog thru brushing... Edited December 30, 2009 by sammy_ballerina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Also, apart from the welfare issues that others have pointed out, if it's really badly matted with a country combo of dam swims and god knows what else then even when brushed out and dematted it will probably look pretty ordinary. Clip it off and start again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterpaws Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 If it was my dog I know what I would be doing and it has also made me think a lot about the breeds I would own when we eventually get to acreage But it is not my dog. I've googled some info on splitting the mats and will give that a go. If I tackle one or two a day we should be sweet in 3 -4 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozjen Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Unfortunately they never think of what will be involved with the coats when they cross all these breeds often with totally different coat types the bi product being cute pups that become a major problem to keep well groomed especially if owners don't keep on top of coat care. Mmm a dog with a tight wool coat with a dog that has a long flowing coat the mind boggles what the result is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I have just been introduced to the MOST wonderful tool for dematting. It will dematt coats you would never have dreamed possible! Google Les Pooches. It's the red matt zapper model. Looks dangerous but oh BOY is it easy on the hand and easy on the dog as well. I give it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterpaws Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 I have just been introduced to the MOST wonderful tool for dematting. It will dematt coats you would never have dreamed possible!Google Les Pooches. It's the red matt zapper model. Looks dangerous but oh BOY is it easy on the hand and easy on the dog as well. I give it ;) I remember seeing these in a US mag years ago and they looked good. Did you pick it up in Australia? It would be great for Charlie's coat as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) I was lucky enough to pick up mine from somebody in Australia who was upgrading to the next size. I'm not sure if there are any stockists here or not, but I'm told that http://www.groomersoutlet.com/index.php?mo...t&id_prd=83 have them at a great price. I also have the blackhandled, red-topped one for "normal" slicker work, but the red matt zapper is just an amazing thing. Editing to add: Just checked that link. They have the "normal" slickers for $30 USD each. You may have to go to the actual Les Pooches site for the matt zapper. http://www.lespoochs.com/brush-matz.asp Edited December 30, 2009 by ellz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Ellz those brushes are fab, I have about ten of them for work. I got them (a different brand though) a couple of years ago and haven't looked back. I am still amazed at how the matts just fall apart. For people not used to them they need to be aware that they need a lighter hand than even a regular slicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterpaws Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 I was lucky enough to pick up mine from somebody in Australia who was upgrading to the next size. I'm not sure if there are any stockists here or not, but I'm told that http://www.groomersoutlet.com/index.php?mo...t&id_prd=83 have them at a great price.I also have the blackhandled, red-topped one for "normal" slicker work, but the red matt zapper is just an amazing thing. Editing to add: Just checked that link. They have the "normal" slickers for $30 USD each. You may have to go to the actual Les Pooches site for the matt zapper. http://www.lespoochs.com/brush-matz.asp Thanks! I am going to order one for Charlie anyway so might grab a matt zapper as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvsdogs Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Would like to see before & after pictures of Charlie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vehs Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 I hope after all the work the owners will maintain it! hrm... I wonder where my les pooch brushes went...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 If it was my dog I know what I would be doing and it has also made me think a lot about the breeds I would own when we eventually get to acreageBut it is not my dog. I've googled some info on splitting the mats and will give that a go. If I tackle one or two a day we should be sweet in 3 -4 days If it is a poodle cross then in all likelihood it HAS to be clipped - matted or not. After all, if they had a pure poodle it would need to be clipped - even the most faithful owner couldn't keep it matt free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemappelle Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 My Cav is known for a few of her speshal behaviours and one of them is to run right through the middle any clump of prickles or burs and get most of them caught in her ear fur. I have found a Mars Coat King great for getting through the resulting mess of tangled hair and stuck prickles without taking away all the coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 As the dog is going into the dam everyday, will the owners keep the dog brushed or would it really be better off clipped short to suit his lifestyle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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