pip1981 Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Hi, I need to buy a new collar for Dakota, and have read that 'rolled leather' collars do less damage to the coat (Dakota is a Samoyed..). I don't really know what 'rolled leather' means, could someone please explain it too me? Is it as simple as the collar is made into a tube shape, or does it mean something else? I'd also like to hear from anyone with long-coated breeds that uses this type of collar.. And, where do I find a good one? Preferably Aussie made.. Thanks DOLers (p.s We are also interested in trying either a halti/gentle-leader or a martingale, just for walking, any advice/preferences? We only started using a harness because we felt there was no way she could escape us, lol, but now that she has done quite a few sleigh pulls using the harness, we feel it will be very hard to encourage loose lead walking on a harness..hehehe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roux Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Yes, your description is correct. I have just learnt how to do this If you are willing to take my first ever made, email me please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullbreedlover Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Yes the leather is rounded and then stitiched together. If you have a samoyed then I would recommend that the collar you get is not dyed in any way but left its natural colour. Including the stitiching. There is no leather product out there in which the dye will not leech. If you dont mind having a samoyed with a coloured neck then go for a dyed one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pip1981 Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) Yes, your description is correct. I have just learnt how to do this If you are willing to take my first ever made, email me please. Thanks for the offer Roux, but I'd like to hear a few more opinions first Yes the leather is rounded and then stitiched together.If you have a samoyed then I would recommend that the collar you get is not dyed in any way but left its natural colour. Including the stitiching. There is no leather product out there in which the dye will not leech. If you dont mind having a samoyed with a coloured neck then go for a dyed one. Thanks for the advice stonebridge, she's had a 'normal' leather collar before, which I believe was dyed, albeit a 'natural' colour, and haven't had probs as long as we remove it before swimming, etc. She's also had a leather collar that was dyed purple! The OH forgot to remove it before a swim, so we know all about colour leeching...LOL She looked very pretty, thankfully, she's not a show dog. Edited December 28, 2009 by pip1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackiemad Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 i have a mini schnauzer and we have a black rolled leather collar on him. other collars tended to muss up the hair, or leave a dent in-between clips, whereas we don't find this with the rolled leather. for coated dogs i think they're fab, with the double-coated long haired dogs i have no experience though... i probably paid an excessive amount because i got mine from wagners (a boutique horse gear/tack shop). mine has brass fittings and is of the loveliest leather. well, i say excessive, but it was around $30-$40, which for a small dog collar is pretty pricey. however, i was also buying a custom made bridle so i'm not sure of what the normal retail price would be-perhaps my collar was cheaper or more expensive?! it was all in the one bill and a few years ago now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pip1981 Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 i have a mini schnauzer and we have a black rolled leather collar on him. other collars tended to muss up the hair, or leave a dent in-between clips, whereas we don't find this with the rolled leather. for coated dogs i think they're fab, with the double-coated long haired dogs i have no experience though...i probably paid an excessive amount because i got mine from wagners (a boutique horse gear/tack shop). mine has brass fittings and is of the loveliest leather. well, i say excessive, but it was around $30-$40, which for a small dog collar is pretty pricey. however, i was also buying a custom made bridle so i'm not sure of what the normal retail price would be-perhaps my collar was cheaper or more expensive?! it was all in the one bill and a few years ago now thanks for your input mackiemad- your collar sounds lovely, i don't mind the price tag so much as she has only had fairly cheap collars in the past, and I'm a firm believer in 'you get what you pay for'. She currently has no collar though, and I really want to get one before we head down to the beach for a couple of days next week. I'll try and wait for a few more opinions- hopefully from some long haired double-coat doggie owners I shouldn't be too fussy, no collar has ever caused major damage, and she's not a show-dog, I just like her coat to stay nice, and I think it must get uncomfortable/itchy when her coat rolls up under the collar. It doesn't really matt, just gets condensed, it can be brushed out fairly easily, but it seems shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointees Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Hey pip!! I have one here, lead to match too. You can have it if you want, its a bit big for my girls. Not sure if its dyed or anything though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pip1981 Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) Hey pip!! I have one here, lead to match too. You can have it if you want, its a bit big for my girls. Not sure if its dyed or anything though. oh, you're so cute, I really appreciate it, but if it's too big for your girls, it will be too big for dakota, her head/neck is a lot smaller than it looks under all that fluff..LOL Edited December 28, 2009 by pip1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointees Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Forgot she was a bit smaller- its all that fluff!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraNik Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I replied in the Spitz thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Brown Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Gidday. D4DOGZ has the weaver brand, lovely collar. Check out http://www.d4dogz.com.au/catalog/index.php?cPath=3_116 Also have you considered the Sporn Halter as well also check out http://www.d4dogz.com.au/catalog/index.php?cPath=3_40 We have a Labrador which pulls alot and the Sporn Halter certainly slows her down in a very gentle way. Happy New Year ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyTansy Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) will she be wearing the collar all the time, or just on walks/beach trips? My sister has an Old English Sheepdog in full coat with a white neck/chest... she uses a normal flat collar on him and it hasn't caused any issues, however he never wears a collar at home. also worn it at the beach and in water/sand and again no issues provided he was rinsed and brushed afterwards. ETA - he mostly doesn't pull on his lead, though, so not sure if this minimises damage around the area. Edited December 31, 2009 by SparkyTansy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casima Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Hi Pip, my Raffy wears a nylon collar the same shape as a rolled leather one (round instead of normal flat) and I find it keeps his coat much nicer than a flat collar, not much collar mark at all, although he goes nekkid when at home. I haven't tryed a leather one on him but I assume it would work just as well P.S Raffy has a long double coat but not as much as a Sammie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobite Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Don't know how much this is going to help..... but Afghan people use them, or at least they did 25 years ago when we had Afghans. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindii Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) (p.s We are also interested in trying either a halti/gentle-leader or a martingale, just for walking, any advice/preferences? We only started using a harness because we felt there was no way she could escape us, lol, but now that she has done quite a few sleigh pulls using the harness, we feel it will be very hard to encourage loose lead walking on a harness..hehehe) I use a martingale for Fletcher, and his ruff is still big a booootiful! It's a soft material with chain at the back. The soft part doesn't really rub or move around to much, just the chain at the back tightens. Many Sammie people you rope leads/chokers. Like this: http://www.prestigepetproducts.com.au/inde...sid=&uhash= They seem to do well and not catch the coat either. I started with a martingale but will probable get one of these one day too. Edited January 1, 2010 by Bindii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pip1981 Posted January 3, 2010 Author Share Posted January 3, 2010 Sorry guys, I'm a bit late to reply...have been away for the long weekend Thank for all the input, I ended up ordering a mountain/climbing rope collar (for everyday wear...lol) and matching lead, along with a martingale to try for walking. Will most likely get them in the mail tomorrow. Was directed to Callicoma Kelpies by a fellow DOLer, thanks! They were great to deal with I may still order a rolled leather one, it seems the Weaver brand ones from the U.S are the only ones sold here (unless made to order locally I guess) and Callicoma sells them at a very reasonable price. Thanks again everyone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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