jerojath Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Hi All. I am after some advice for the owner of a pup I bred. Rez is an entire male Hungarian Vizsla of 7 months. He lives as part of a family - Mum, Dad, Twin 4 year old girls and the cat. He is a wonderful companion, extremely well mannered and soaring through classes at Mornington Obedience. Unfortunately, Rez has a little 'issue'..... I can only describe Rez' behaviour from what his owner tells me as I have not witnessed it myself, but it seems Rez has developed a love affair with the twins Rocking Horse . Rez has a ritual which he adheres to closely, where he will approach the toy horse, nuzzle its neck, lick its face, then go around behind and start licking beneath its tail as if it is a real animal! After much 'fore-play' Rez proceeds to mount the horse which becomes very vigorous - almost frenzied. This has been going on for some time and on a regular basis (daily) and he gets very 'put out' when the girls decide to ride the rocking horse - HIS horse! He will sulk and wander around in circles until they are finished on it. Another peculiar point I should note, is that these 'visits' to the horse are more frequent when his 'Dad' has his mates around for a boys night. Rez will slink off to visit the horse every time like clockwork when they are in the home and often more than once. Can anyone guide me with what to suggest to the owner? She has tried the usual distraction techniques but to no avail. Thanks in advance..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Remove the rocking horse so that Rez does not have access to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojath Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Remove the rocking horse so that Rez does not have access to it. I suggested the same thing Erny, but I gather it is a favourite toy with the girls so is taken out alot. Any time he sees it, it begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) I suggested the same thing Erny, but I gather it is a favourite toy with the girls so is taken out alot.Any time he sees it, it begins. To stop it, they need to control the situation. Have the rocking horse in a room from where the dog can be denied access. On top of that, I would not have the dog claiming a toy that the children play on and with, especially WHILE the children are playing on and with it. The dog should be denied access to that situation. ETA: Just a guess, but it could be the girl's scent on the rocking horse, and Rez is claiming dominance over that. Edited December 8, 2009 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Hmmmm! 7 months....is he entire? Hi All. I am after some advice for the owner of a pup I bred. Rez is an entire male Hungarian Vizsla of 7 months. He lives as part of a family - Mum, Dad, Twin 4 year old girls and the cat. He is a wonderful companion, extremely well mannered and soaring through classes at Mornington Obedience. Unfortunately, Rez has a little 'issue'..... I can only describe Rez' behaviour from what his owner tells me as I have not witnessed it myself, but it seems Rez has developed a love affair with the twins Rocking Horse . Rez has a ritual which he adheres to closely, where he will approach the toy horse, nuzzle its neck, lick its face, then go around behind and start licking beneath its tail as if it is a real animal! After much 'fore-play' Rez proceeds to mount the horse which becomes very vigorous - almost frenzied. This has been going on for some time and on a regular basis (daily) and he gets very 'put out' when the girls decide to ride the rocking horse - HIS horse! He will sulk and wander around in circles until they are finished on it. Another peculiar point I should note, is that these 'visits' to the horse are more frequent when his 'Dad' has his mates around for a boys night. Rez will slink off to visit the horse every time like clockwork when they are in the home and often more than once. Can anyone guide me with what to suggest to the owner? She has tried the usual distraction techniques but to no avail. Thanks in advance..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 they watch the whole process it should stop as soon as he goes near it. Just a simply 'LEAVE IT' and even spray his royal horniness with a spray bottle if he keeps it up. If he cannot behave remove him while they play with it until he learns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Ooops! Just re-read your post. Yes he's entire.....if not planning on breeding I would be looking to either castrate him or if the owner are not keen look at the Suprelorin implant. It definately sounds like sexual frustration to me. Hmmmm! 7 months....is he entire? Hi All. I am after some advice for the owner of a pup I bred. Rez is an entire male Hungarian Vizsla of 7 months. He lives as part of a family - Mum, Dad, Twin 4 year old girls and the cat. He is a wonderful companion, extremely well mannered and soaring through classes at Mornington Obedience. Unfortunately, Rez has a little 'issue'..... I can only describe Rez' behaviour from what his owner tells me as I have not witnessed it myself, but it seems Rez has developed a love affair with the twins Rocking Horse . Rez has a ritual which he adheres to closely, where he will approach the toy horse, nuzzle its neck, lick its face, then go around behind and start licking beneath its tail as if it is a real animal! After much 'fore-play' Rez proceeds to mount the horse which becomes very vigorous - almost frenzied. This has been going on for some time and on a regular basis (daily) and he gets very 'put out' when the girls decide to ride the rocking horse - HIS horse! He will sulk and wander around in circles until they are finished on it. Another peculiar point I should note, is that these 'visits' to the horse are more frequent when his 'Dad' has his mates around for a boys night. Rez will slink off to visit the horse every time like clockwork when they are in the home and often more than once. Can anyone guide me with what to suggest to the owner? She has tried the usual distraction techniques but to no avail. Thanks in advance..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 It definately sounds like sexual frustration to me. sounds more like a dog that hasnt been told off more then sexually frustrated ... unless rocking horses now ovulate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Ovulation need not be the trigger for sexual frustration. Whatever the reason, the behaviour has been allowed to continue for way too long and has become self rewarding. It needs to be stopped PRONTO!!!! It definately sounds like sexual frustration to me. sounds more like a dog that hasnt been told off more then sexually frustrated ... unless rocking horses now ovulate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Simple- dog and toy are not in the same room . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 It definately sounds like sexual frustration to me. I disagree. I think it does relate to hormone development, but not in a sexual tense. This behaviour needs to stop now. Remove access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojath Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 It definately sounds like sexual frustration to me. I disagree. I think it does relate to hormone development, but not in a sexual tense. This behaviour needs to stop now. Remove access. Agreed - I don't think it's 'sexual' either. However, if the horse is removed from the equation, will his attentions turn to another item? and if so, what else could be done in such a case? Thanks for the thoughts so far, Guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) Agreed - I don't think it's 'sexual' either. However, if the horse is removed from the equation, will his attentions turn to another item? and if so, what else could be done in such a case? Your 'friends' need to look at their leadership status, from the dog's point of view, and watch for the 'signs' (sometimes they can be subtle) that their dog is 'testing the water'. They need to watch the dog around the children (that's something that can't help but be recommended, no matter the dog) as children do not have the natural physical or mental maturity to exude assertiveness. As for your question above ..... remove the rocking horse and see. But look into leadership status also and STOP the dog from learning this behaviour if he should seek to re-direct to another item. Edited December 9, 2009 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I'd also remove access to the horse but how about desexing the dog as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojath Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 I'd also remove access to the horse but how about desexing the dog as well? Unfortunately desexing is not an option as they plan to begin showing before long... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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