sigzephyr Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 My whippets weigh 11.5 and 14.5 kg. I usually use the advocate 10-25kg on them. One each. I need to buy more and noticed for $8 more I can buy the Advocate for 25+kgs. Would it be ok to get this one and try and split it between the dogs? It would save a lot of money if it was an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipsqueak Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Just spoke to a rep yesterday and it was a definite NO to splitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 (edited) I have been told by vets and vet nurses it's is fine to split Revolution tubes between dogs. Why would it be any different to Advocate? I think there is a ml per kg dosage rate somewhere in most products litrature. My method is to cut the bottom off the tube and use a drawing up needle to suck it into a syringe. Take the needle off and dole out the correct amount to each dog. Edited November 19, 2009 by puggy_puggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigzephyr Posted November 19, 2009 Author Share Posted November 19, 2009 Just spoke to a rep yesterday and it was a definite NO to splitting. Maybe the reps have a vested interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJB Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I have been told by vets and vet nurses it's is fine to split Revolution tubes between dogs. Why would it be any different to Advocate?I think there is a ml per kg dosage rate somewhere in most products litrature. My method is to cut the bottom off the tube and use a drawing up needle to suck it into a syringe. Take the needle off and dole out the correct amount to each dog. This is exactly what I would do if I had 2 dogs. I'm sure it would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mags Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Most people I know do it - the rep I suspect doesn't want to sell less product but I do not want to overdose my animals for no reason either so I breakdown a large tube and throw the excess away. Minimising our chemical usage will also minimise the risk of parasites bulding up resistance to the chemicals we use. Jo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappie Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I have been told by vets and vet nurses it's is fine to split Revolution tubes between dogs. Why would it be any different to Advocate? Maybe the reps have a vested interest. Have a read of the back of a packet of any topical ectoparasiticide treatment. Somewhere on it, you'll find the words "NOT TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE, OR IN ANY MANNER, CONTRARY TO THIS LABEL UNLESS AUTHORISED UNDER APPROPRIATE LEGISLATION". It is not permitted to alter the instructions applied to any ectoparasitic treatment in the labelled species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 (edited) I do and it works just fine. I also have three friends that do the same thing, also no problems. I split and use it the same day now having the 3 dogs. It also means that my Whippets don't get the full 2.5 ml dose that will treat up to a 25kg dog as the size they are is the 10 to 25 kg range. Rommi is only 10.8 kgs so I feel 2.5mls is overdosing her when the next size down is 1ml for a 4 to 10kg dog. Lewis came with yearly heartworm vaccination so I used Advocate last time as someone allowed their newly diagnosed Fox mange carrying dog to go up to him and nuzzle noses! Normally I use Advantage on him until he needs the heartworm component. ETA to add - the dosage I was told to use was 0.1ml per kg so a 10kg dog gets 1ml, a 15kg dog gets 1.5ml. Rommi is 10.8kg's and I give her 1.2ml, Lewis is 12.5kgs and I gave him 1.4ml. Even though I do contravene the labelling as such, I don't see the need to buy exactly the same product at the same concentration and be charged lots more for the priviledge. Edited November 19, 2009 by Rommi n Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ams Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 You can split it. Just make sure the dosage is correct for your dogs. Reps do have vested interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ark Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 (edited) I do it. Just check the dosage rate on the small dog packet, and make sure you use the correct dosage when splitting the big tube. Of course a rep is going to say "don't do it"! If you can't find a packet with the correct ml/kg dose rate then just google it - most products will have a data sheet accessible somewhere online. I tip the whole tube into a small container/test tube, then use one of those syringes with 0.1 measurements on it to make sure I get the right dose for each dog. Edited November 20, 2009 by The Ark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) When we have large numbers of dogs you will find a lot of breeders purchase the largest packet available and divide it among their dogs. Most of us know what the dose rate is. If the companies that manufacture these products had any sense they would bring out a breeders pack with a measure applicator. That way we would not go out and purchase other products that do the job. Before all of you ask what I use it's Regents 200 I break it down 50/50 with pest oil and use it at normal recommended dose rate for Frontline. Before anybody comments pest oil is just oil that is used to get remove pests that don't like oil. Edited November 20, 2009 by oakway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louloud Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Its fine to split them it works out alot cheaper too. The only thing that isn't ok with Advocate is to split up the dog one and apply it to cats as well as dogs. They have different ingredients and can be harmful to cats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whippets Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I split all my flea/worm stuff among the dogs. I use the advocate on my cats and draw up the dose in the syringe, take off the needle and put it topically on the back of the neck. Maybe they say no because some people may dose incorrectly as well. I suppose you would have to know what you were doing to split doses between dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninahartland Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Yes, I used to do this all the time with my lot. I now use Kiltix collars which do fleas as well, even cheaper The down side is the collar is visible on shorthaired dogs, but my lot are all hairy so can't be seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah8 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 hi everyone, just a reminder that some flea products (advantix) can potentially kill cats so don't accidently split a packet and put some on your cats as well, ive seen this happen at the vet with an exelpet flea spot-on product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnauzer_love Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 I buy the largest dose which is 4mils per tube, I only need 1mil per dog so a 1 month dose of the large dog one does my 2 girls for 2 months, so much cheaper than buying the 4-10kg packet. I also just use a measuring syringe to get the correct dose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carloc Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Hio what did you do with the spare 2ml that you were waiting to use for the second month did you leave it in its original tube or did you extract it and put into a an air tight container Whats the best way to keep the extra stored until you use it and does it go bad after a period time while sitting? any info much appreciated ty regards carlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Kisses Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Carloc said: Hio what did you do with the spare 2ml that you were waiting to use for the second month did you leave it in its original tube or did you extract it and put into a an air tight container Whats the best way to keep the extra stored until you use it and does it go bad after a period time while sitting? any info much appreciated ty regards carlo I would ask a vet instead of people on an internet forum. I suspect a vet would advise against storing it. Open packets are no longer a protected atmosphere. Edited May 30, 2021 by Papillon Kisses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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