raffikki Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) My 2, almost 8 month old, AmSatffs are currently getting Advance, Puppy Plus, Growth Large Breed but I am considering changing. Although I think both are doing well on the Advance, I'm hoping to get a kibble with NO preservatives and colours. (Advance has a "preservative") In my area I can get: Iams® ProActive Health™ Smart Puppy Large Breed Hill's® Science Diet® Puppy Large Breed Eukanuba® Puppy Large Breed Formula Royal Canin Maxi Junior PRO PLAN Puppy Large Breed Chicken & Rice Eagle Pack Holistic Large/Giant Breed Puppy Formula SUPERCOAT Puppy PetFare Crunchie Bites(chicken & corn) ETA: Artemis Fresh Mix Medium / Large Breed Puppy Rhino may also possibly have sensitive skin, and I have been advised by a friend/trainer to avoid anything that says "whole grain cereals" So looking at the ingredients that cuts out Super Coat(which I wasn't really considering) The other products mention things like Ground Whole Grain Corn, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, whole grain corn, whole grain wheat & Whole grain brown rice, should I be avoiding these too What exactly are "fillers"? I have read numerous posts saying to avoid kibble with these. How can I tell which ones have, or don't have, preservatives and colours? Which do you think is the best? All input will be greatly appreciated Edited November 17, 2009 by raffikki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYLER23 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Our stafford went downhill on Advance Puppy so we recently changed to Great Barko.. he absolutely loves it and the runny poos and itching have stopped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ams Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Our stafford went downhill on Advance Puppy so we recently changed to Great Barko.. he absolutely loves it and the runny poos and itching have stopped I use Hills Science Diet and Shar Pei are renowned for skin problems. none here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetty Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) Jet is on PRO PLAN puppy. He has never had a problem. ETA: I find that availability for it is really good too. As well as price wise. Edited November 17, 2009 by jettyjet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchnauzerBoy Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Ours are on a combination of Pro Plan and Royal Canine and both love it and we have no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~*Shell*~ Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) Zero is on artemis healthy weight management - it contains no grains which are the "fillers" in kibble. I buy it online at: http://www.pookinuk.com.au/ or http://www.naturalpetstore.com.au/ Both deliver to Perth for a $5 fee. ETA: I should add that Zero is allergic to preservatives and colourings. He doesn't have a problem on artemis. We've tried the healthy weight one and the maximal one - Zero has a very slow metabolism so puts on weight easily so he gained weight very quickly on maximal but he loses weight easily on healthy weight. Edited November 17, 2009 by ~*Shell*~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickasyoucan Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) Mine is on Eagle Pack Holistic. He was itchy on Eukanuba no probs on Eagle Pack Holistic. We get ours from the Natural Pet Store too. They have a range of the "healthy" ones. ETA I see you are in Perth but you coudl have a gander on their website for info. Edited November 17, 2009 by Quickasyoucan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Of the choices on your list I'd go with either Eaglepack, Proplan or the Royal Canin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjelkier Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I had mine on Pro Plan for ages and I was more then happy with it. Only reason I changed was i wanted something more natural. Now they are one Nutro Natural Choice, Lamb. It's fantastic! Also Pro Plan do a fish one for sensitive doggies, its very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) Zero is on artemis healthy weight management - it contains no grains which are the "fillers" in kibble. I buy it online at: http://www.pookinuk.com.au/ or http://www.naturalpetstore.com.au/ Both deliver to Perth for a $5 fee. ETA: I should add that Zero is allergic to preservatives and colourings. He doesn't have a problem on artemis. We've tried the healthy weight one and the maximal one - Zero has a very slow metabolism so puts on weight easily so he gained weight very quickly on maximal but he loses weight easily on healthy weight. It's only $5 from the Natural Pet Store if it's under 500grams but Pookinuk is only $5. Edited November 17, 2009 by Tiggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffikki Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 Thanks for all the responses so far ;) I hadn't even thought of buying online, so I guess my options are much wider than I thought. Rhino's skin hasn't been a problem so far, though he has a mild bacterial infection in his ears and the vet has advised me that sensitive skin/allergies may become a problem. He has had hives a few times, but they only appear in the evenings after a play outside, so I'm thinking they're from bugs/midgies(that come out at night) The more I look at all the choices the more confusing it gets but so far it seems PRO Plan, Royal Canin and Eagle Pack are better? I will also add that Artimis is now an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridgiemum Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Mine is on Eagle Pack Holistic.He was itchy on Eukanuba no probs on Eagle Pack Holistic. We get ours from the Natural Pet Store too. They have a range of the "healthy" ones. ETA I see you are in Perth but you coudl have a gander on their website for info. My ridgeback is on Eaglepack Hollistic Large breed adult now & doing great, previously used Nutrience & Royal Canin & had to feed almost twice as much as Eaglepack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~*Shell*~ Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 The more I look at all the choices the more confusing it gets but so far it seems PRO Plan, Royal Canin and Eagle Pack are better?I will also add that Artimis is now an option I've heard good things about eagle pack holistic and royal canin but it really is up to the individual dog. As far as I'm aware, the only food that doesn't contain fillers is artemis but i have heard stories of dogs gaining a lot of weight on it, and dogs that drop weight like crazy on it. Zero does very very well on it but he is allergic to wheat so it doesn't surprise me that he is better on a wheat-free food. Choose the one you like the sound of and go from there. If your dog isn't doing well, change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 royal canin maxi is the only one that is allergy free in this household and does well for any breed I have had. Only one I will buy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie-i Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I'm currently reading a book about commercial dog foods and am feeling quite ill reading it. What we think sounds innocent on the packaging, is actually quite sinister and shocking. Am seriously thinking of removing commercial food from my dogs' diets and going raw/home prepared. Although from what i was told by an expert, Eagle Pack Holistic brand is by far the lesser of the evils, I might leave them on this for emergencies only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charli73 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I tried Proplan but she got a bad case of itchy skin..... She is now on a mix of Eagle pack holistic and royal canin and is doing great.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojath Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 In my opinion, the best kibble available in Australia is 'EVO'. Problem is the sole importer/distributor is none other than that loathed pet store chain via its 'warehouse' type outlets. Thus, I no longer use it. I am hoping in the future it will become available through other retailers - I will switch back to it for sure!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TillyandCC Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Hi we have just been using a new one that we pickup in Woolworths calld Biogestion 5 made by Natures Gift - it is all natural and preservative free. Tilly just loves it and can't get enough, we have to cut back on the amount of dry we feed her as the food is meat based with rice and she seems to not require as much her dry skin is no longer and she is in great health - when speaking tothe vet he also said it is a great all natural brand to use so we have moved her over to their cans as well. it comes in a 4kg bag for $18 and lasts alot longer than the other brands. Sophie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vk2mpj Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Why do people shy away from Supercoat?? My two have been on it since day one (they are now on Junior) and don't seem to have a problem. (Well i dont think so, my Rotty has a skin issue at the moment, but I am certain that it is FAD...) Also is Great Barko or Uncle Albers okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-time Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I shy away from Supercoat because it's got a lot of cereal "fillers" and my dogs STINK and produce GIANT POOPS when they eat it it As far as I'm concerned if they are getting a nice well- balanced diet, the dogs should NOT be producing the quantity OR the stench I've been trying out a few different kibbles lately and so far I'm leaning towards Nutro, Eaglepack and they are currently liking Proplan - all for small breeds or puppies. I haven't fed any Supercoat for years because of the above mentioned issues but I think I will eventually go back to Eaglepack once this lot runs out - my dogs eat the 3 brands I've said, but they seem to really THRIVE on the EP. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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