emery Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Is everyone having a life away from DOL?! No posts on here in 2 days (apart from me!) I've got a bit of a newbie question in regards to breeding for those breeders amongst us, hope you can help! It's for a TAFE assignment on breeding, and I don't really want to post the Q in the breeder's forum at this stage Say a mating was successful, how long after mating would the dog be officially pregnant and you could start counting your 63 days gestation? It's not from the mating date, is it? I know they can be mated several times so the counts can differ. But I have heard a few references to "x number of days from the first/second mating", what is that x number? Hope my question makes sense and doesn't sound completely stupid Thanks! My understanding is say you do three matings you may do them 2 days apart each so the first due date would be 63 days from first mating all the way to 63 days from third mating. she could fall pregnant on any of the three matings :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 (edited) My understanding is say you do three matings you may do them 2 days apart each so the first due date would be 63 days from first mating all the way to 63 days from third mating. she could fall pregnant on any of the three matings :D Thanks emery! So there is no "wait time" between mating and actual fertilization? You just take 63 days from each of the mating dates? Wow anyone would think I must have failed sex ed in school Edited June 4, 2011 by RubyStar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Rubystar - did you get the back of your car sorted and are you happy with it? The back of my car got vaccuumed today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Rubystar - did you get the back of your car sorted and are you happy with it? The back of my car got vaccuumed today Still waiting to hear back! He still has it He called late yesterday to say he wasn't done yet and should be ready sometime today. I'm thinking of taking Ruby for a drive when I finally pick it up so she can test drive it for me on the way home :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxagirl Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 There may be yet another new puppy joining the WA thread soon Just a bit excited! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 That's just teasing boxagirl. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 RS exciting about your car. I am looking for a ute with a canopy. I might even make it to training when I get the new car. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxagirl Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 That's just teasing boxagirl. :nahnah: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozjen Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Is everyone having a life away from DOL?! No posts on here in 2 days (apart from me!) I've got a bit of a newbie question in regards to breeding for those breeders amongst us, hope you can help! It's for a TAFE assignment on breeding, and I don't really want to post the Q in the breeder's forum at this stage Say a mating was successful, how long after mating would the dog be officially pregnant and you could start counting your 63 days gestation? It's not from the mating date, is it? I know they can be mated several times so the counts can differ. But I have heard a few references to "x number of days from the first/second mating", what is that x number? Hope my question makes sense and doesn't sound completely stupid Thanks! While we generally count 63 days from mating as the date there are other factors to consider, ie type of mating natural /AI, when fertalization actually takes place etc, this I think is what you are refering to. Some things to consider here are the bitches prog. levels at time of mating and the method of fertilization. The window for mating is different in each case as one you are delivering the semen to the right spot and the other it has to travel. Not really the number of matings that count but working on the right time line in terms of the bitch peaking. Bitches don't always follow the same cycle for peaking either, Jenna has peaked near the end of her cycle, had one mating and had pups and she has peaked less than a week into her cycle and blown my plans out of the water. I would consider 63 days from the first mating as the due date but allow for the fact that they can come as early as the 57th day or later than the 63rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 I will find out on sat if the bitch i want a pup from is preg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emery Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Is everyone having a life away from DOL?! No posts on here in 2 days (apart from me!) I've got a bit of a newbie question in regards to breeding for those breeders amongst us, hope you can help! It's for a TAFE assignment on breeding, and I don't really want to post the Q in the breeder's forum at this stage Say a mating was successful, how long after mating would the dog be officially pregnant and you could start counting your 63 days gestation? It's not from the mating date, is it? I know they can be mated several times so the counts can differ. But I have heard a few references to "x number of days from the first/second mating", what is that x number? Hope my question makes sense and doesn't sound completely stupid Thanks! While we generally count 63 days from mating as the date there are other factors to consider, ie type of mating natural /AI, when fertalization actually takes place etc, this I think is what you are refering to. Some things to consider here are the bitches prog. levels at time of mating and the method of fertilization. The window for mating is different in each case as one you are delivering the semen to the right spot and the other it has to travel. Not really the number of matings that count but working on the right time line in terms of the bitch peaking. Bitches don't always follow the same cycle for peaking either, Jenna has peaked near the end of her cycle, had one mating and had pups and she has peaked less than a week into her cycle and blown my plans out of the water. I would consider 63 days from the first mating as the due date but allow for the fact that they can come as early as the 57th day or later than the 63rd. That's a better explanation i still learning :D oooooo boxa exciting :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Awesome information, ozjen, thanks!! Well I have my car back! Very pleased with the work :D He didn't get time to finish the divider, but it's all cut out so I'll get that next week at training. I'm scared of how squishy it will be with the divider in but I can only really judge it once it's in and the dogs are in. The doors don't open flush and straight because of the shape of my back door, he's curved them to give me maximum boot space as per my request So I'll have to be careful the dogs don't bang their heads on the edge of the door as they jump in I'll get a photo of it tomorrow, too dark to take one now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Sorry to hear about your Nonno RV. RIP. RS I would be VERY interested in wheat bags, especially with channels!! what sort of dimensions are they??? I have worn out a couple and could do with some more. A cool mat coming into summer as well, but not just yet I am "trying" to budget! Awesome :D I can do whatever dimensions you would like if you have a specific in mind. Currently I have made 20x20cm, 20x30cm, and 20x40cm (with 2, 3 and 4 channels). If these sizes don't suit, just let me know. I am making Ptolomy a couple at a larger size (though I haven't measured it out yet). You have a choice currently between burgundy, navy blue and light blue corduroy fabric. I can have the wheat bags for you when you come up to Perth if you like. Good thing about the Cool Mats, is they weigh practically nothing (when dry) so are cheap as chips to post. The wheat bags would cost more to post Hmmm okay, I am thinking a 20 X 30 for now, good size for when my back seizes up after shovelling!!!!! At this stage I am coming to Perth so it would be good to pick one up then. How much are they ?? A 20x30cm is $8 What colour do you want, and just the one? Will make more this weekend, just need to buy a replacement needle for the machine, I broke it! Wow is that all, I will have two please and I don't care about colour Any will do. I have accomodation all sorted, all of us can go and the dogs are more than welcome. IT's not what you know some times, but who you know Can't complain about a house on the beach now can I :D So ET trial and onedience trial here we come :) - Can you tell I am happy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Woo Hoo at last OSoSwift looking forward to catching up ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Hi :0 is there anywhere I can buy 'tiny' bags of dog food? or get free samples? My pup doesnt seem to like his biscuits and I want to try something else but without buying a full bag which even the small ones cost $30! Once i find one he likes of course I will buy it, but dont want to buy 4 or 5 until I find one he likes... ETA more detail :D he is 7 months old and has always had the one premium food, plus bones, chicken, rice vegies etc. He is not showing an interest in his kibbke until he has not eaten for at least a full day, then he will eat it. I assuming he doesnt like it and prefers his bones and chicken, but he may just not be hungry...hhmmmm, thoughts thoughts He is usually fed twice daily, is it time to cut him back to one perhaps and alternate the kibble with raw on a 24 hour cycle rather than morning and night? I have some small bags of Eagle Pack I can give you to try, I will be up at the Canine Grounds 18 and 19th June if you are going and want me to bring some please email me at [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 I will find out on sat if the bitch i want a pup from is preg I thought you had another dog ? Is this another playmate for mason ? Sounds exciting anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 I will find out on sat if the bitch i want a pup from is preg I thought you had another dog ? Is this another playmate for mason ? Sounds exciting anyway! The goldie did not work out - he was fighting mason so he went to a retired couple with no other dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I will find out on sat if the bitch i want a pup from is preg I thought you had another dog ? Is this another playmate for mason ? Sounds exciting anyway! The goldie did not work out - he was fighting mason so he went to a retired couple with no other dogs. oh ok, maybe a behaviourist could check Mason if he has troubles with a pup ? Mine had problems with my new dogs and I had a behaviourist out and it was great No problems and all were happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxagirl Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I don't think it was Mason that was being the trouble-marker with the goldie pup from what I can remember Candice saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Its official My little man today earned his CH Title so is now Ch Strauss Mouse Thanks to Hannah for helping to show him and to everybody else who has offered us help and encouragement along the way. The Popping bottles will pop tonight ;) and now he will retire to the obedience and agility rings :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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