ness Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 poor guy I think he is regretting being so nice about everything I get a guilt trip up with the emails but he says its all ok. I reckon thats specialist code for geez she is a worry . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirawee Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Or "geez she has paid me a lot of money so I had better be nice to her" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 we won't talk about how much I spent there between her shoulder and her knee. I am sure plenty of people have spent more but we seem to have had rather a lot to do with the place in the last 6 or so months . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I agree with Mirawee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 So I am a stress head - nah specialist thanked me for letting him know and has said if it gets worse or I get worried to stay in touch :laugh:. I guess its easy for them to say your over reacting they know what to expect at various stages. All I can go on is what I observe and when its something that she has done zillion times in the last 4 weeks and it suddenly causes a lasting episode of lameness you start to question your sanity. On the positive tomorrow marks 1 month post surgery . Who would have thought I could have survived without to much going wrong for a month :laugh:. And we finally have some hair starting to make an appearance. Problem with coated dogs it takes forever for the coat to grow back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 With semester over and a study break of 6 weeks, I feel a new found freedom! (which is funny cos I've had that same "freedom" for many years and I've only been studying for a semester :laugh:) So much I want to cram in on those nights I get home from work and don't have to hit the books, but so little time! Not a big TV watcher usually, but heaps of shows lately I want to catch up on. Maybe I'll have a huge TV series marathon Hmm what to start with first?! Grey's Anatomy, Revenge or Offspring?! But I would need to download them all, first First world problems, love it!! And of course now there is no excuse to miss training for the next 5-6 weeks :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 And of course now there is no excuse to miss training for the next 5-6 weeks :D Rain Cold Headache Tired Catching up on TV :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 And of course now there is no excuse to miss training for the next 5-6 weeks :D Rain Cold Headache Tired Catching up on TV :p Wanted to go to training tonight, but I doubt the weather will hold out for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Yep looking that way, and I still have to do some beepy table training (nothing like last minute preparations ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Oh, and Happy 1st Birthday, Miss Pippa Poopy-Pants!!! Can't believe that crazy little ninja flea is 1 already, where does time go?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Wow! A year! Happy birthday little squeaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RosieFT Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Ness - a month already? Hopefully no more set backs with lameness on her recovery. Went to rivergum this morning, very impressed. No need for xrays as she has done her shoulder ligaments. No more retrieving for my Rosie dog - she will be so Rest, antiflams and a less crazy life - hopefully. Surgery is 3rd option after cortisone as they are more conservative with shoulder ops of this kind. ah well, least i know now. On leash walks now for 6 weeks and no free running in the garden. sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 What has she actually done to her shoulder RosieFT? Kenz had two PRP injections for her front end and it seemed to help. I was told 6-8 weeks crate rest may also resolve it. The other alternative suggested was a steroid injection into the joint and then strict rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RosieFT Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 he was very thorough in explaining it and demonstrating how he diagnosed it, very impressed. Anyway, she has sprained her medial glenohumeral ligaments.. which apparantly are a fan of ligaments deep in the joint capsule, surrounded by fluid and almost no blood supply so no healing, which stop the leg from moving too far out/away/sideways from the body. There are ligaments in the shoulder that deal with the fwd/back motion - which appear to be fine.. then there is one that stops the leg moving too far inwards/under the dog - these appear to be fine... but she managed to do the 'fan' of ligaments that stop it moving outwards. sigh. Apparantly nothing but surgery will help the actual ligaments, the other treatment is to treat the inflammation and stop further damage.. as it a lifestyle activity change. hmmmmmm. The surgery has two options, using nylon to recreate torn ligament, or using front tendon and moving it sideways. Neither are as successful as other ops you can have on dogs legs apparantly. So he is not willing to jump on in. Plus, she has luxating patellars which are not impacting on her now because she is so fit and muscled.. my concern would be, give her 12 weeks rest and recovery for a front leg, and the back legs go from lack of muscle tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) Sounds all a little to familiar . The PRP injection still might be useful for the front end - look into it and see. It does help to reduce the inflammation. It doesn't actually require extensive crate rest. Kenz's specialist went the super conservative route but if your leash walking her anyway it might not hurt anything other than a small amount of money. Either that or a stem cell treatment. You can get "pre-packaged" cells which they just inject in. What grade are her patellas???? ETA. Stem cell link http://www.australianstemcells.com.au/ Edited June 7, 2012 by ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RosieFT Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 oh, second step is cortisone injection if flare ups start occurring too frequently. Risk of joint infection and also apparantly, unlike humans, steroids can form crystals in joints causing gout like symptoms - very painful. So we are going for hte first step.. anti inflam and rest to reduce inflammation.. then a lifestyle change and fingers crossed she can enjoy her life without retrieving and that any acute flair ups are limited. Apparantly swimming is great for almost all other orthopaedic problems, but not this one as it actually puts stress on the shoulders. But as long as it doesn't cause acute problems she can still retrieve in water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncarter Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Hi Rosie, good to see you at the specialists. Dr Gibson was great. We did some up and downs and circles in the carpark :laugh: Need to start saving hey. Im still going through all the technical surgical jargon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) Cortisone injection - requires 6-8 weeks strict crate rest as well . ETA. Nic what was the verdict on yours???? Edited June 7, 2012 by ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RosieFT Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Grade II on left hind, grade I on right hind. I can feel them pop in and out. He says as long as they are not impacting on her quality of life he is happy to leave them be. Until they cause a problem. She does do a little skip when i have kept her next to me when walking and she wants to increase speed and surge ahead again. Thing is, nothing will help the ligament heal as such a bloodless environment, so if hte anti inflams help settle inflamation then not much more can be done without surgery, and since the surgery has no guarantee.. and she is not acutely sore.... In fact he could see no lameness in her today on the front end.. he did notice the hop though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RosieFT Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Hi Rosie, good to see you at the specialists. Dr Gibson was great. We did some up and downs and circles in the carpark :laugh: Need to start saving hey. Im still going through all the technical surgical jargon Yes, small world! LOL.. I bet your up and downs and circles were a little more controlled than Rosies..... Now where was that money tree i planted..... I was very happy with the service provided, and so happy to get an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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