OSoSwift Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I also do the trienniel vaccine. The should not need any testing in between and kennels have no reason to not accept it as it is a three year vaccine and is not due for that time. Mine also do not ahve allergies. The Stafford has not been vaccinated for around 6 years after he had a substantial reaction to a yearly booster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirawee Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 OsoSwift - does the 3 year vaccine do KC though? I didn't think it did and wouldn't mind knowing LOL. Kennels will not accept vaccination which doesn't include KC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 OsoSwift - does the 3 year vaccine do KC though? I didn't think it did and wouldn't mind knowing LOL. Kennels will not accept vaccination which doesn't include KC Can't answer your question and I'm not OSS, but can't you just go and get the KC vax separate if need be? When I went in to get Ruby vaccinated again cos her parvo immunity was low, I asked for a C3 (so minus the KC) and he said he does the 3 yearly vax but I didn't clarify if that was still classed as a C3 or something else I can check her certificate when I get home for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirawee Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I know you can get KC only vacs (they actually mix it with a normal C3 at my vet to get a C5) but was just wondering if you can get a 3 yearly shot for it? Coz if you can't then saying that the 3 yearly is ok for kennels wouldn't be true ;) My lot don't get done now after their 16 month old one anyway, unless they are going to go into kennels. Any time I have titre tested they have been fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) I know you can get KC only vacs (they actually mix it with a normal C3 at my vet to get a C5) but was just wondering if you can get a 3 yearly shot for it? Coz if you can't then saying that the 3 yearly is ok for kennels wouldn't be true ;) My lot don't get done now after their 16 month old one anyway, unless they are going to go into kennels. Any time I have titre tested they have been fine How often do you titre test? Yes it would be interesting to know if there is a 3 yearly C3 and a 3 yearly C5 for those purposes. I just assumed it would be exactly like the yearly ones! Edited June 16, 2011 by RubyStar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyTansy Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) a friend of mine sent me a vaccination thing she did for Uni (vet student)... Core vaccinations for dogs in Australia protect against Canine Parvovirus type 2, Canine Distemper Virus and Canine Adenovirus. Non-core vaccines are recommended in certain circumstances and in dogs in Australia provide some level of protection against Parainfluenza Virus, Bordetella, Borellia, Lepttospira and Canine Influenza (Irwin, 2010). the non-core canine vaccines are said to provide immunity for less than one year. The effectiveness of the non-core vaccines is less than that of the core vaccines and if an animal is particularly susceptible to the non-core diseases it is recommended they be vaccinated against them at least once a year (Schultz, 2006) All vaccines carry some kind of risk to the animal they are being administered to (Carmichael, 1999). Adverse vaccine reactions are relatively uncommon in companion animal practice but still however provoke fear in owners and veterinarians. Exact mechanisms of diseases caused by vaccinations are difficult to locate. Diseases linked to vaccination administration are hypersensitivity reactions, cutaneous vasculitis or granulomatous reactions, vaccination site–associated sarcomas, neurologic complications and vaccine-associated hypertrophic osteopathy (metaphyseal osteodystrophy) (Moore & HogenEsch, 2010). As these diseases are quite severe in nature it is therefore legally very important to choose an appropriate vaccine and follow its on label instructions. Adhering to the advice provided by the WSAVA of best practise (core vaccines to be given every 3 years) is also an important welfare decision that needs to be taken into consideration in order to try to avoid the serious consequences of possible adverse vaccine reactions. So it says that core vaccines (which the 3 yearly one is) last 3 years but the non-core ones last less than 12 months. Edited June 16, 2011 by SparkyTansy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirawee Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I don't titre test very often I should get all of my guys done atm. When I went to get Kinta done 2 years in a row my vet said not to bother, so I think I did her 3 years apart? So once the year after her vax and then a couple of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxagirl Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I think dogs with orange are the smartest - just look at Sandi's kids (And not at Andrea's James ) Yep Ranga dogs are the smartest :D (Red Boxers! ;) ) There is no difference in Boxer temperament related to coat colour- but I agree that chocolate labs are "harder" in temperament judging by the ones we have had in the kennels. Also working with federal police dogs, of all the police labs we have worked with- it's funny none of them were chocolate! Mostly blacks. The yellows seem more "crazy" than the blacks. I must own the rare soft temperamented Labradors then, who are laidback yet friendly, and not dumb at all ;) Couple of crazy labs in this video, watch out!!! Very rare RS! I wish all labs were like your two- would make work much more relaxing ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Masons titre came back that he was covered ( i know its 2 they test for parvo and one other) so i was happy with that and will re-test him by the end of this year again i think. I just feel that the vacs never seem to carry the strain thats going around. The 3 year vac must have something in it to make it last the extra 2 years so imo i would feel that its riskier, plus its new so I am less likely to use it as not many side effects will have been discovered as yet. I will probably just titre the new pup too after the pup vaccines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I always say that Brookie has Toller bits Hey my black lab has orange streaks on his back... Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I always say that Brookie has Toller bits Hey my black lab has orange streaks on his back... Lol Lol!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) I will probably just titre the new pup too after the pup vaccines. I could be wrong but I think you'll find a lot of people do the 12 month booster (so really they are 14 months old), and then titre after that. I think pups need the booster 12 months after their puppy vacs in the bare minimum, and then titre test after that. As for the 3 yearly being more risky, currently don't have an opinion on that one besides I am happy to risk it as it's what the AVA recommend over yearly Edited June 16, 2011 by RubyStar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) Mason never had the 12 month booster and his levels are fine. The thing is with vaccinating is that if you titre and levels are good if you then vaccinate its a waste as they already have the immunity. But lets not forget we all just do what we think is right for our dogs and I dont judge people who vaccinate yearly etc its just that its not what I believe in doing, and with Mason the choice was out of my hands anyway as our specialist said it could cause a huge allergy flare. Hold thumbd for masons half brother who is 7 months old, he is seeing Steve from Applecross today as he hurt his leg. Edited June 16, 2011 by Mason2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyTansy Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Mas i think the viruses are different. The Parvo strains etc dont change so much whereas the virus that causes KC change a lot and there are varying strains, which is why it is not so easy to vaccinate against it. it would be pretty hard to vaccinate against the current strain when there is more than one and they are ever changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 My two BCs have been known for there Toller bits too . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Trying to find the article...can't remember where I read it but there was a scientific discussion postulating the maternal antibodies could still be active and counter vaccinations in 12 week old puppies which means that without a titre you wouldn't know if your pup was adequately covered, hence the need for the 16 month vaccination. Its a bit of a mine field I will probably just titre the new pup too after the pup vaccines. I could be wrong but I think you'll find a lot of people do the 12 month booster (so really they are 14 months old), and then titre after that. I think pups need the booster 12 months after their puppy vacs in the bare minimum, and then titre test after that. As for the 3 yearly being more risky, currently don't have an opinion on that one besides I am happy to risk it as it's what the AVA recommend over yearly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyTansy Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Trying to find the article...can't remember where I read it but there was a scientific discussion postulating the maternal antibodies could still be active and counter vaccinations in 12 week old puppies which means that without a titre you wouldn't know if your pup was adequately covered, hence the need for the 16 month vaccination. Its a bit of a mine field I will probably just titre the new pup too after the pup vaccines. I could be wrong but I think you'll find a lot of people do the 12 month booster (so really they are 14 months old), and then titre after that. I think pups need the booster 12 months after their puppy vacs in the bare minimum, and then titre test after that. As for the 3 yearly being more risky, currently don't have an opinion on that one besides I am happy to risk it as it's what the AVA recommend over yearly I've read that too - but then I've also read the opposing argument that the antibodies don't last that long once they stop feeding from mum. Not sure what to believe exactly but I'll be recommending the 12 month booster and then 3 yearly after that to my puppy buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyTansy Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 (edited) James is on a setter holiday at the moment again, while I have the visiting redhead here with me... So I looked at the date today, and realised I missed his birthday, which was the 14th June... So... to my beautiful, special, handsome heart dog James... he turned 5 years old on Tuesday... Edited June 17, 2011 by SparkyTansy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Happy birthday james!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Happy B'Day James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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