RallyValley Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 It WONT rain!!! (at least I hope ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoxyNHemi Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I'm going to "rough it" in the back of my car with hopefully an air mattress, lots of big doonas for comfort and warmth, and pillows. But I will have to pee in the bushes, so I really will be roughing it!! I dont do peeing in the bush etc, think I would rather try hold it for the entire weekend!! After all if I wanted no water and electricity I would have stayed in africa ..... i dont do it either, tried it the other weekend and just couldnt bring myself to do it, even tho I was busting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncarter Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 (edited) I will be there for showing. First on in the gundog ring at 12.30 I will get there a lot earlier though to cone watch some obidience and laugh at RS trying to set up her new shelter So ValleyCBR are you just showing on the saturday? I will have to come and have a look. Have you got a show suit yet? Hope its a nice colour A purple one would look nice with Lincoln i think Edited May 20, 2010 by ncarter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoxyNHemi Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I will be there for showing. First on in the gundog ring at 12.30 I will get there a lot earlier though to cone watch some obidience and laugh at RS trying to set up her new shelter So ValleyCBR are you just showing on the saturday? I will have to come and have a look. Have you got a show suit yet? Hope its a nice colour A purple one would look nice with Lincoln i think Depends on what shade of purple I will be there on Saturday!!! VCBR - I will bring your book back too.... I feel so bad I havent given it back, but I havent really seen you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab_Rat Posted May 20, 2010 Author Share Posted May 20, 2010 I will be there for showing. First on in the gundog ring at 12.30 I will get there a lot earlier though to cone watch some obidience and laugh at RS trying to set up her new shelter So ValleyCBR are you just showing on the saturday? I will have to come and have a look. Have you got a show suit yet? Hope its a nice colour A purple one would look nice with Lincoln i think Depends on what shade of purple I will be there on Saturday!!! VCBR - I will bring your book back too.... I feel so bad I havent given it back, but I havent really seen you! Ooh, can I have a Hemi cuddle??? Hows the little cutie going?? VCBR - I too hope it doesnt rain! Its yucky at K9 when its wet - usually windy as well, and under the dome it seems to be colder than it really is! Rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Is it the weekend, yet? I'm so royally bored at work. Doing everything in myy power not to fall asleep!! Think I may need to go and buy a 4 pack of red bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncarter Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 4 packs of mother are on sale for $7 at coles this week. That stuff is so strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab_Rat Posted May 20, 2010 Author Share Posted May 20, 2010 Two more sleeps yet RS..............Im not bored, just excited, yes actually excited, to be heading to Perth for the weekend Did I read correctly - theres a Gundog show on Sunday??? Perhaps I could sneak to that one too and check out the GSP's . Rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 4 packs of mother are on sale for $7 at coles this week. That stuff is so strong Bugger, no Coles in the city, only Woollies. And I can't be bothered walking 10 minutes to Woollies, either 2 Red Bull's for $5 at a lot of places though, might take that option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Two more sleeps yet RS..............Im not bored, just excited, yes actually excited, to be heading to Perth for the weekend Did I read correctly - theres a Gundog show on Sunday??? Perhaps I could sneak to that one too and check out the GSP's . Rat I'll just be happy for today to be over and I can go spend a few hours training the doggies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncarter Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 RS, do you mean the new one in st georges terrace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I will be showing Sat and Sunday at k9. I don't have a special show suit yet, keeping my eye out for a red one or a light blue it green one. Anything dark will wash Lincoln out becauseof how dark he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 (edited) RS, do you mean the new one in st georges terrace? Woollies? There's a new one there? I was referring to the one in the Murray St mall. Edited May 20, 2010 by RubyStar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Yep, Saturday & Sunday wet and maybe thunder, Monday sunny then back to winter again for the rest of the week. It would be good if it would by pass Perth and head SOUTH. Im over looking at a manky yellowy brown paddock thats supposed to be green!I seriously hope there is NO thunder on Saturday. Must really shit the dogs off under the dome - its so echo-ee under there Rat Lab rat wont be down at the show this weekend as the handler I need to see for the Xolos will only be there next week 30th, so may see you then ? Sorry gor my weekends muddled up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoxyNHemi Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Ooh, can I have a Hemi cuddle??? Hows the little cutie going?? VCBR - I too hope it doesnt rain! Its yucky at K9 when its wet - usually windy as well, and under the dome it seems to be colder than it really is! Rat Hemi wont be with me. He is staying home to be a pet dog... He is just gorgeous tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab_Rat Posted May 20, 2010 Author Share Posted May 20, 2010 Yep, Saturday & Sunday wet and maybe thunder, Monday sunny then back to winter again for the rest of the week. It would be good if it would by pass Perth and head SOUTH. Im over looking at a manky yellowy brown paddock thats supposed to be green!I seriously hope there is NO thunder on Saturday. Must really shit the dogs off under the dome - its so echo-ee under there Rat Lab rat wont be down at the show this weekend as the handler I need to see for the Xolos will only be there next week 30th, so may see you then ? Sorry gor my weekends muddled up! Ooh, can I have a Hemi cuddle??? Hows the little cutie going?? VCBR - I too hope it doesnt rain! Its yucky at K9 when its wet - usually windy as well, and under the dome it seems to be colder than it really is! Rat Hemi wont be with me. He is staying home to be a pet dog... He is just gorgeous tho! Bugger! On both accounts!! Oh well, there will be more dog shows! RnH - are you handling lots of dogs Saturday?? And Sunday? Xolo - No I wont be up next weekend - back to work properly then! But I am going to try and head up for a few of the bigger shows if I can later on in the year. Maybe the winter fest... Rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozjen Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I will more than likely hold on to my pups papers until they are sterilized, unfortunatley not everyone follows through with what they agree to at time of purchase even after signing a contract. An agreement similar to Mirrawees is under consideration.I have see a pet shop show a copy of limited register papers for one of the parents of the pups that the pet shop was selling. The breeder was horrified to find out that not only had this bitch been bred from and the ofspring were being sold in a petshop, but that her limited register paperwork for the mother was being shown. These pups were bred from a bitch that was to be sterilized and no health testing was done on her, the father or the ofspring(in petshop) but the Prefix of the breeder of the bitch would be the one people would affiliate with these pups if anything went wrong with them, not the person who actually bred the limited register bitch. That is just one example of why breeders are starting to hold back papers till they are sure new owners have fullfilled the sterilization requirement. Also many people don't understand the difference between limited register and Mains when they go to buy a puppy so unscrupulous people can fool them into believeing they are getting a pedigree pup by showing both parents limited register papers. Just check the local dog adds in the paper, ie pedigree cavalier/pug X , registered RottiX, purebred pedigree Chihauhau (registerd with canine? no!) I for one don't want to make it any easier for them. If I am selling a pup as a pet it is never to be bred from and the terms of me selling that pup to someone is that they sterilize it with in an agreed time period and send proof of same, if they are not willing to do that then they can look elsewhere for a pup. While I'm not comfortable with sterilizing young pups before they leave like many breeders are starting to do I can fully understand why breeders are starting to do it, withholding papers is hopefully going to encourage peope to stick to their side of the agreement but ultimaitly the only sure way is to sterilize before they leave. I'm not ready to take that ultimaite step yet but if left with no other choice it will be that or not breed at all. ETA: Pet shop pups were sold for twice the price of Limited register pups that are eye tested, vaccinaited and microchiped and from health tested parents so are purchasers of LR dogs really paying for the papers. Perhaps breeders should charge petshop prices hold on to their paperwork and then offer the price difference back along with papers when they have proof of sterilization. Good God Ozjen I cant believe that would really happen!!!!! Was this in WA?? Surely they Pet Shop owner would know that this ISNT the done thing!? I think if I had seen that I wouldve been onto the "original" name on the limited papers to let them know , then wouldve let rip at the pet shop - seriously this sort of stuff really p!$$es me off! I think the biggest thing that puts me off getting into breeding is finding homes for the pups - it would be the single most difficult thing to get 100% right. The small number of idiots make it soooooo hard for those that seriously just want to do the right thing...Oh, and BTW - I am not having a go at you at all Ozjen, Im just infuriated that someone would actually do this without a second thought!!!!! Ok, vent over... Have you gotten to have a look at agility right from the start yet Rs? I will be bringing it to read Sat so when I come hang out at obidience you can have a look Are you gonna be at the show on Sat VCBR, or some other event?? If so I will endeavour to hunt you down and introduce myself, very interested in having a quick squiz at your agility book - see if its what I need! I reckon they will be using the dome if its gonna be thundering and raining! Hope it makes it way around the grounds though! Geez, I cant believe just how excited I am about going to watch this show on Saturday!!! Rat No worries Labrat, I wasn't having a go at anyone on here either it just makes my blood boil everytime I think of it. Yes, it was WA and the breeder of the bitch was informed, she had words with the owner of the bitch as well as the pet shop and also got legal advise. It was a very upsetting situation for her and very disheartening as a fairly new breeder trying to be a responsialble breeder. Pet shop was also telling people that they could view the grandparents and other relies on the mothers side online as they were alot of Champions. Mmm, again all that would do is reinforce blaming the wrong people when things go pearshape with the new petshop pup. Certainly made me relook at my contract and wonder how I could really guarentee that my pups aren't bred from once they change ownership is they didn't leave me already sterilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoxyNHemi Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Hemi wont be with me. He is staying home to be a pet dog... He is just gorgeous tho!Bugger! On both accounts!! Oh well, there will be more dog shows! RnH - are you handling lots of dogs Saturday?? And Sunday? Xolo - No I wont be up next weekend - back to work properly then! But I am going to try and head up for a few of the bigger shows if I can later on in the year. Maybe the winter fest... Rat Hemi is going to stay at home till I get off my butt and get to obedience training with him, and when he old enough to get into agility. He is going to shine in other sports. Im showing Dalmatians and Boxers on Saturday, and just a goldie on Sunday, unless I get asked to show the staffy at the terrier show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab_Rat Posted May 20, 2010 Author Share Posted May 20, 2010 I will more than likely hold on to my pups papers until they are sterilized, unfortunatley not everyone follows through with what they agree to at time of purchase even after signing a contract. An agreement similar to Mirrawees is under consideration.I have see a pet shop show a copy of limited register papers for one of the parents of the pups that the pet shop was selling. The breeder was horrified to find out that not only had this bitch been bred from and the ofspring were being sold in a petshop, but that her limited register paperwork for the mother was being shown. These pups were bred from a bitch that was to be sterilized and no health testing was done on her, the father or the ofspring(in petshop) but the Prefix of the breeder of the bitch would be the one people would affiliate with these pups if anything went wrong with them, not the person who actually bred the limited register bitch. That is just one example of why breeders are starting to hold back papers till they are sure new owners have fullfilled the sterilization requirement. Also many people don't understand the difference between limited register and Mains when they go to buy a puppy so unscrupulous people can fool them into believeing they are getting a pedigree pup by showing both parents limited register papers. Just check the local dog adds in the paper, ie pedigree cavalier/pug X , registered RottiX, purebred pedigree Chihauhau (registerd with canine? no!) I for one don't want to make it any easier for them. If I am selling a pup as a pet it is never to be bred from and the terms of me selling that pup to someone is that they sterilize it with in an agreed time period and send proof of same, if they are not willing to do that then they can look elsewhere for a pup. While I'm not comfortable with sterilizing young pups before they leave like many breeders are starting to do I can fully understand why breeders are starting to do it, withholding papers is hopefully going to encourage peope to stick to their side of the agreement but ultimaitly the only sure way is to sterilize before they leave. I'm not ready to take that ultimaite step yet but if left with no other choice it will be that or not breed at all. ETA: Pet shop pups were sold for twice the price of Limited register pups that are eye tested, vaccinaited and microchiped and from health tested parents so are purchasers of LR dogs really paying for the papers. Perhaps breeders should charge petshop prices hold on to their paperwork and then offer the price difference back along with papers when they have proof of sterilization. Good God Ozjen I cant believe that would really happen!!!!! Was this in WA?? Surely they Pet Shop owner would know that this ISNT the done thing!? I think if I had seen that I wouldve been onto the "original" name on the limited papers to let them know , then wouldve let rip at the pet shop - seriously this sort of stuff really p!$$es me off! I think the biggest thing that puts me off getting into breeding is finding homes for the pups - it would be the single most difficult thing to get 100% right. The small number of idiots make it soooooo hard for those that seriously just want to do the right thing...Oh, and BTW - I am not having a go at you at all Ozjen, Im just infuriated that someone would actually do this without a second thought!!!!! Ok, vent over... Have you gotten to have a look at agility right from the start yet Rs? I will be bringing it to read Sat so when I come hang out at obidience you can have a look Are you gonna be at the show on Sat VCBR, or some other event?? If so I will endeavour to hunt you down and introduce myself, very interested in having a quick squiz at your agility book - see if its what I need! I reckon they will be using the dome if its gonna be thundering and raining! Hope it makes it way around the grounds though! Geez, I cant believe just how excited I am about going to watch this show on Saturday!!! Rat No worries Labrat, I wasn't having a go at anyone on here either it just makes my blood boil everytime I think of it. Yes, it was WA and the breeder of the bitch was informed, she had words with the owner of the bitch as well as the pet shop and also got legal advise. It was a very upsetting situation for her and very disheartening as a fairly new breeder trying to be a responsialble breeder. Pet shop was also telling people that they could view the grandparents and other relies on the mothers side online as they were alot of Champions. Mmm, again all that would do is reinforce blaming the wrong people when things go pearshape with the new petshop pup. Certainly made me relook at my contract and wonder how I could really guarentee that my pups aren't bred from once they change ownership is they didn't leave me already sterilized. Goodo, Im glad the breeder got to know about it! I wonder just how often this does occur. How bloody disgusting of the Pet Shop too!!! They would surely know how unethical that sort of shite would be! Then again they are a pet shop! Hemi wont be with me. He is staying home to be a pet dog... He is just gorgeous tho!Bugger! On both accounts!! Oh well, there will be more dog shows! RnH - are you handling lots of dogs Saturday?? And Sunday? Xolo - No I wont be up next weekend - back to work properly then! But I am going to try and head up for a few of the bigger shows if I can later on in the year. Maybe the winter fest... Rat Hemi is going to stay at home till I get off my butt and get to obedience training with him, and when he old enough to get into agility. He is going to shine in other sports. Im showing Dalmatians and Boxers on Saturday, and just a goldie on Sunday, unless I get asked to show the staffy at the terrier show. Well this time I might get to meet some Dalmatians!!! And breeders ...Im also looking into GSPs as well. Too many great looking dogs, not enough time to have them all!!!! Rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 It's really sad that some dodgy, dodgy people ruin it for others when it comes to the puppy sterilization/withholding papers debate. I understand where breeders are coming from and why some are doing this, but can't help but be saddened that it is because of those dodgy people out there that us responsible ones have to "suffer" Breeding from my dog isn't on my wishlist, but getting the papers and the dog truely being in my name, is. Not having a go at anyone either, just having my 2 cents worth, not that it is worth anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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