RallyValley Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 VCBR, yes it looks VERY involved, even for Novice! And to get a NRD title you not only have to pass but WIN I think! Would so love to do it one day but for me to find the time I would have to give up obedience and agility and there is no way I am parting ways with obedience :D I was told yesterday RS that starting this year there is a new title for succsessfully completeing all 3 retrieves in 5 trials regardless of placings. They are trying to make the sport more approcable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mas1981 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 VCBR, yes it looks VERY involved, even for Novice! And to get a NRD title you not only have to pass but WIN I think! Would so love to do it one day but for me to find the time I would have to give up obedience and agility and there is no way I am parting ways with obedience :D I was told yesterday RS that starting this year there is a new title for succsessfully completeing all 3 retrieves in 5 trials regardless of placings. They are trying to make the sport more approcable! Sounds good! Silly question but how far are the retrieves?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 VCBR, yes it looks VERY involved, even for Novice! And to get a NRD title you not only have to pass but WIN I think! Would so love to do it one day but for me to find the time I would have to give up obedience and agility and there is no way I am parting ways with obedience :D I was told yesterday RS that starting this year there is a new title for succsessfully completeing all 3 retrieves in 5 trials regardless of placings. They are trying to make the sport more approcable! Sounds good! Silly question but how far are the retrieves?? The length varies, yesterday the first retrieve was about 60-70m, the second one was maybe 150m and over two hills and through a river and the final one was probably around 250m out in the river. The first retrieve and parts of the second the handler couldn't see the dog so it looked super tricky and relied on lots of trust. It's not like tracking with set distances, it's just whatever the judge decides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fetchindawgs Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 There are set rules for retrieving trials, just like all the other disciplines. For Novice, there is a single mark retrieve, and the maximum distance this can be is 100 metres. Terrain often decides how long a retrieve can be, as a mark must have a skyline, and obviously we want the dog to see it well so he can mark it down and do a no nonsense retrieve. The Novice yesterday was within the rules for distance, with the first mark being about 60 metres max. The second run had very difficult terrrain between the handler and the fall, but I walked out there and the distance was not overlength at all. Sometimes the difficulty of the terrain makes it appear longer than it is. The final run had a mark landing in water with a good splash, and this would have been close to the 100 metre length. So, you see, the judges do have to abide by the rules, especially for the lower levels. Sometimes in All Age you will find a judge that strays beyond the 150 metre maximum distance, and I have experienced retrieves over 200 metres at that level. Not in the rules, but how do you prove it. Ann and Trick did a lovely job of the Novice retrieves and were very worthy of their first placing. Allan and Finn also did well, and Sonja and Kajsa were right up there. Eleven dogs competed and five finished the trial. Restricted was much more difficult, and nine dogs started and only one finished. Remember, all judges are different in how they set a trial, and as you attend trials you will see that the dogs are challenged in their retrieves but each judge will have their own stamp on what type of task they set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Fetchindawgs who won restricted yesterday??? I believe that it was pretty hot yesterday which wouldn't make it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Aww there's my little man! Winpara you must have a good zoom lens to capture him looking so big, and it looks like he is jumping heaps higher than 300 :D I saw you with Mia, she is very cute! Poor little Kyzer slept pretty much all yesterday, he had a big weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Great photos Winpara :D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 I was told yesterday RS that starting this year there is a new title for succsessfully completeing all 3 retrieves in 5 trials regardless of placings. They are trying to make the sport more approcable! Well that is really good news!! I love retrieving, damn you retrieving for not being possible for me :D Awesome photos, Winpara!!! I keep wondering if anybody will take nice ones at obedience, it's always at agility where the "action" is Looks like I may have to work hard in agility training so one day my girl can have gorgeous photos taken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirawee Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 I can't see photos at work And knowing Winpara they are good ones :D Rubystar, remember you are doing Novice Jumping in June Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 I can't see photos at work And knowing Winpara they are good ones :D There's one of Abby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 :D Well I am not very good at estimating distances at all! It may also appear longer from the gallery . There are set rules for retrieving trials, just like all the other disciplines. For Novice, there is a single mark retrieve, and the maximum distance this can be is 100 metres. Terrain often decides how long a retrieve can be, as a mark must have a skyline, and obviously we want the dog to see it well so he can mark it down and do a no nonsense retrieve. The Novice yesterday was within the rules for distance, with the first mark being about 60 metres max. The second run had very difficult terrrain between the handler and the fall, but I walked out there and the distance was not overlength at all. Sometimes the difficulty of the terrain makes it appear longer than it is.The final run had a mark landing in water with a good splash, and this would have been close to the 100 metre length. So, you see, the judges do have to abide by the rules, especially for the lower levels. Sometimes in All Age you will find a judge that strays beyond the 150 metre maximum distance, and I have experienced retrieves over 200 metres at that level. Not in the rules, but how do you prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyTansy Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Winpara - lovely photos!! Well done to everyone who did well in retrieving yesterday. I would love to have gone but i had an OES open show... a shame really as the show turned out to be a bit of a flop for Charlie and I! must remember to check that crystal ball every once in a while :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) Rubystar, remember you are doing Novice Jumping in June ;) ;) Bad influence!! The idea was fun, but the reality is a big fat NO WAY! :D Ask me again in June 2011 and I'll see how brave and ready I am feeling then Unless there is anyone out there with a semi-experienced agility dog who doesn't mind a newbie handler giving their dog a shot :D Edited April 19, 2010 by RubyStar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) :D whats the big occasion in June is it worth a visit ;) . Edited April 19, 2010 by ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Just the next agility trial after the Nationals, unless you wanna head country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 :D ;) :D ;) hmmm nope will pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirawee Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Unless there is anyone out there with a semi-experienced agility dog who doesn't mind a newbie handler giving their dog a shot :laugh: I could always ask J if you can do a NFC Novice jumping round with Abbey Although she may be preggers then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Unless there is anyone out there with a semi-experienced agility dog who doesn't mind a newbie handler giving their dog a shot I could always ask J if you can do a NFC Novice jumping round with Abbey Although she may be preggers then... But I understand the liklihood of others wanting someone else to handle their dog, especially a newbie handler, are slim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 least you have NFC over there so you can give them to others to run. I'd loan you Ness RubyStar if I was there. Hmmm just have to find a trial to come for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Unless there is anyone out there with a semi-experienced agility dog who doesn't mind a newbie handler giving their dog a shot I could always ask J if you can do a NFC Novice jumping round with Abbey Although she may be preggers then... But I understand the liklihood of others wanting someone else to handle their dog, especially a newbie handler, are slim I would offer you Toby to run when I am at work so have to miss trials but he is too naughty and it wouldn't be something to get you into agility but something that would scare you away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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