~Aimee~ Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I have a 16 month old cavalier called Ruby and over the last couple of months I have noticed she is getting quite a bit what I would call soft, fluffy, dead fur. It's mostly on the top of her back legs near her back and she has started to get some around her sides and the top of her neck. The rest of her coat is still all glossy & shiny. The fluffy fur is very pale and pulls out very easily when I pull on it. Some people have suggested I use a coat king but I've just been reading about them online and have read that it actually cuts the fur. I thought this was a bad thing as cutting can change the texture of the coat? How does your dog's coat grow back after using the coat king? Is it wavy & curly? Does anyone have any experience with the furminator? I've heard it's similiar to the coat king but doesn't cut the fur. Is there anything else I can use to help remove all this dead fur so I can get her coat back to looking nice and glossy ans straight again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 The coat king shouldnt cut if used correctly. You can use a flea comb or just hand pluck or use a heros stone(slick n easy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tru Borders Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Furminator Lover here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavmad Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I have two cavaliers and I use the furminator. Its absolutely brilliant. You wouldnt believe the hair it removes. I also use it on my sofas to pick up stray hair! The dogs don't love the furminator but the tolerate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I'd go the Coat King over the furminator. In my experience it isn't as severe IF USED CORRECTLY. You can also place a rubber band around the "teeth" of the Coat King which lessens the action and encourages the hair to stick to the rubber and be pulled out, not cut out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretel Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I swear by the Coat King. I bought a Furminator and gave it to my daughter for her cat cause I think the Coat King did a much better job on a Cavalier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I would use a fine comb with an elastic band wound through the teeth or just wear some thin rubber gloves and pull out by hand (which would be the method I'd use first.) If the coat king isn't supposed to cut coat, why does it have sharp blades and replacements?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I would use a fine comb with an elastic band wound through the teeth or just wear some thin rubber gloves and pull out by hand (which would be the method I'd use first.)If the coat king isn't supposed to cut coat, why does it have sharp blades and replacements?? Used properly it doesn't cut coat becks. Some people purchase them TO cut coat, others don't. Much the same as using a stripping knife. I can use a stripping knife and just pull out undercoat, whilst somebody else is merrily butchering the topcoat. The Coat King with a rubber band around the teeth works in pretty much the same way as a comb with a rubber band wound through it. But it works more effectively in my opinion and a little bit more quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 yes but a stripping knife is not meant to be sharp and if left sharp, that is why some people butcher a coat with them. I just don't get a design with sharp edges not being used to cut coat, and them selling replacement sharp blades.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 See I don't honestly think that the "blades" on a Coat King ARE sharp. I've even run the thing through my OWN hair to see what it felt like before using it on my dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Maybe you're using the wrong Coat King blade type Ellz, as they truly do cut coat if using the appropriate Coat King for the breed. I've got quite a few Coat Kings and have found the ones which don't actually cut are the ones not specific for that coat type. I use them all correctly. It's interesting the different views between the two. I prefer the Furm as a long term result. I think the Coat King gives a better immediate result but not as gentle on the coat over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I'm using the one recommended for my breed for show presentation and get LOVELY results with it so I'm happy to recommend it to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretel Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I have a desexed black and tan girl whose coat I keep nice and under control with the Coat King. Hard to explain but it really does thin it out and doesn't damage it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagittarian Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I just spent two hours stripping out Evie's winter undercoat - with our Mars Coat King. As she is in the showring next week, the last thing I would want is to cut her coat. Result - multiple bags of undercoat (and lots more flying around the yard with the birds in pursuit ) and a much more streamlined Saint. I guess it's horses for courses. Sags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 yes but a stripping knife is not meant to be sharp and if left sharp, that is why some people butcher a coat with them.I just don't get a design with sharp edges not being used to cut coat, and them selling replacement sharp blades.... Seen plenty of butchered coats with stripping knifes .All must be used correctly & that means hand placement aswell. The problem is people think you go do it all in one hit & all these items are designed for maintenance, Although my personal choice is an old blade works better than all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I just spent two hours stripping out Evie's winter undercoat - with our Mars Coat King. As she is in the showring next week, the last thing I would want is to cut her coat. Result - multiple bags of undercoat (and lots more flying around the yard with the birds in pursuit ) and a much more streamlined Saint. I guess it's horses for courses.Sags Don't the birds love it! I used my Coat King on one of the horses at the end of last Winter and the birds appeared from nowhere and were stealing it as it hit the ground. There must be lots of lovely, horsey smelling nests out there somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I use a Mars Coat King on my (show) Cocker and haven't had any problems with it. Her coat is lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Don't the birds love it! I used my Coat King on one of the horses at the end of last Winter and the birds appeared from nowhere and were stealing it as it hit the ground. There must be lots of lovely, horsey smelling nests out there somewhere! On especially windy days the gums outside my work area blow down birds nest made from dog hair. I'm amazed by how soft and inviting they seem, and so perfectly round! The birds obviously know they've hit the mother lode by hanging around my home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poodle wrangler Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 What about a slicker brush? Doesn't cut fur, but great for getting dead fur out. Get an extra soft one and test the wire bristles on your arm if unsure- shouldn't hurt. I've seen some OK ones in Coles- but don't buy the supercheap variety-> ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 What about a slicker brush?Doesn't cut fur, but great for getting dead fur out. Get an extra soft one and test the wire bristles on your arm if unsure- shouldn't hurt. I've seen some OK ones in Coles- but don't buy the supercheap variety-> ouch! Talking apples and oranges here Poodle wrangler. A slicker brush doesn't do what the Coat King (or furminator) does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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