Vickie Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 how cool is this!!! I put both the girls through 24 weave poles & they just did it . I expected Trim would as she has quite a lot of experience & LOVES to weave, but wasn't sure what Shine would do as she has been weaving a lot less time & didn't even really have a rhythm until this year. It's not something I will practice, just kind of cool to know they can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Very cool Vickie - interesting Trim double steps and Shine single steps. Does anybody have any theories as to why a dog would chose one style over another. Ness double steps but Kenzie seems to single step. Interesting as I thought some of it would be size dependent but Kenzie is a smaller dog then Ness in both height and body length so that blows that theory out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 not sure, Trim often single steps as well. The less adrenalin she has, the more likely she is to double step. She often single steps in a trial, I have video of her doing both. She was totally exhausted in this clip, so wasn't putting in as much effort as she usually does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Fair enough - that would definitely explain my two - Kenzie has much more andrenalin then Ness does when she plays agility . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 I honestly think that in general, it is a combination of the way they were taught to weave & their structure, rather than adrenalin. There are PLENTY of very driven & VERY fast dogs who double step and I'm not convinced that one way is faster than another. Like I said, Trim does both, but is more likely to single step when she's really going for it. I don't think Shine could double step comfortably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 How cool, they obviously both understand their jobs really well. How did you teach them, Vickie? Did you use the same method for both dogs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicole... Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 We put Lomani through 36 weave poles when we took her along to expose her to a trial environment the week before the first trial she competed in and nearly fell over when she actually did them. It was like she didn't even realise there were more than normal, if there's poles infront of her she just does them. I think she came about 5th in time and was less than a second outside of the winning dog (not bad for a cocker!!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Very nice! Kaos single steps at home where he is confident but doesn't yet have a good rhythm at training (I have stick in the ground poles at home and the ones at training have a base). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 How did you teach them, Vickie? Did you use the same method for both dogs? They both started & learnt to weave with 3 poles & a clicker. I have done some 2x2 with Shine, but more b/c I wanted to understand the process so I can teach it. I like the 2x2 & see benefits in it, but think I will always use the 3 pole method for my own dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 We put Lomani through 36 weave poles when we took her along to expose her to a trial environment the week before the first trial she competed in and nearly fell over when she actually did them. It was like she didn't even realise there were more than normal, if there's poles infront of her she just does them. I think she came about 5th in time and was less than a second outside of the winning dog (not bad for a cocker!!!). That's awesome I felt the same way, they didn't even seem to realise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 How did you teach them, Vickie? Did you use the same method for both dogs? They both started & learnt to weave with 3 poles & a clicker. I have done some 2x2 with Shine, but more b/c I wanted to understand the process so I can teach it. I like the 2x2 & see benefits in it, but think I will always use the 3 pole method for my own dogs. Thanks! I taught my old boy with a lure, which was the only way I knew then, with pretty average results. Will definitely be doing one of the clicker methods with my new girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Now that you have done some 2 x 2 and 3 pole, what do you see are the benefits of each? You have shown me the 3 pole (thank you! That is why Kaos can now weave! ). I think 2 x 2 looks interesting but don't quite get a couple of the early steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Hi Vickie, do you mind giving a summary of your three pole method? The videos are great - look at them go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordacollies4me Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 how cool is this!!!I put both the girls through 24 weave poles & they just did it . I expected Trim would as she has quite a lot of experience & LOVES to weave, but wasn't sure what Shine would do as she has been weaving a lot less time & didn't even really have a rhythm until this year. It's not something I will practice, just kind of cool to know they can do it. Very Cool!!! well done to both girls.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraNik Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Great videos Vickie!!!!!!!! Weaves are my summer project with my two!! I have 3 months of holidays, so we have plenty of time! I'm going to use 2x2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agility Dogs Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 how cool is this!!!I put both the girls through 24 weave poles & they just did it . I expected Trim would as she has quite a lot of experience & LOVES to weave, but wasn't sure what Shine would do as she has been weaving a lot less time & didn't even really have a rhythm until this year. It's not something I will practice, just kind of cool to know they can do it. Very Cool!!! well done to both girls.... Go on.......you know you want to........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smisch Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 As I posted on youtube They girls are both looking AMAZING and it's interesting seeing the difference.. But I see what you mean about Shine and rhythm, towards the end she starts to loose that rhythm but its only in the last 2 or three poles where you can see she's like "ok whats next!" Trim on the other hand.. neat and tidy and consistent the whole way thru!! Be proud of the girls and their weaves they are amazing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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