soniq Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I have found 2 behaviourists in Perth - Dog Logics and another woman named Kathy based in Morley. Just wondering if anyone had any suggestions? I would like to be educated about this rather than choosing someone crap like I did before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundangel Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I was recommended a lady by the name of Honey Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted December 9, 2004 Author Share Posted December 9, 2004 Any contact details Mel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snobbybobby Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Just wondering if anyone had any suggestions? I would like to be educated about this rather than choosing someone crap like I did before! Hi, If you go to the Delta Society Australia Website (google search will find it), there are Vet. Behaviourists listed by State. At least that way you can look at their qualifications and don't just call themselves a behaviourist. Good luck Henrynchlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted December 9, 2004 Author Share Posted December 9, 2004 What methods do Delta Society use? Thank you for the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 What exactly are you wanting from these people ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted December 9, 2004 Author Share Posted December 9, 2004 As per my topic http://forums.dogzonline.com.au/index.php?showtopic=17647 I want my amstaff and maltese x to be friends I need help to teach my amstaff to be gentle and my maltese x to not be so scared (because he is not gentle and squashes her). She is a timid little thing anyways. I dont want to cause more problems by guessing and trying with the best of intentions but making her more timid and him more rough. So I would like to seek the advice of a professional. At the moment we are having to "crate and rotate" ie he comes inside and she goes out and vice versa and I dont want to make more work for myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I would say that with good obedience lessons Bailey will be fine, my setters are taught from day 1 to lay down for any small dog & to be gentle although the big & small are seperated for there own time out as no matter what big dogs will play for there size . I dare say the malt will never get over the size thing but certainly Bailey can be taught gentleness etc. Have you tried Amstaff obedience classes the people that take the lasses are very experienced & have owned other breeds but most importantly nows what makes this breed click & respond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted December 9, 2004 Author Share Posted December 9, 2004 Yes we used to go to the Amstaff obedience but I had a few issues with that ... ie one instructor said to do one thing, another said something else and I hated being told to do something different each week. That is why I am trying to find a good behavourist or obedience class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snobbybobby Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 What methods do Delta Society use? Hi Delta Society Australia fosters the human/canine bond that is why they advertise QUALIFIED vet. behaviourists. The true dog behaviourist, imho, studies how dogs learn! They look at why the dog is behaving in "that way". We are two different species! If you look at Patricia McConnell's book "The other end of the Leash" published by Random House - ISBN 1 86325 320 3, you will see what I mean! IMO, all the "rot" that people talk stems from the ignorance of the behaviour of a different species! Methods of training pale into insignificance when you understand that fact. I don't feel, for one minute, that punishment gets any gongs!, for humans or canines! Don't get me wrong but, I have found greater respect for our canine friends by studying the difference. Henrynchlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted December 9, 2004 Author Share Posted December 9, 2004 Thank you for the info Henrynchlo .. will definitely follow that up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundangel Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Any contact details Mel? Yeah I do, I just have to find them Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna H Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I've heard quite a few recommendations for Kathy, she trains up at the Northern Subrubs club from time to time... her Mals are amazing, but she is a fan of the old halti. I personally have not used her, but from what I hear, she is one of the best Perth has to offer... Unfortunately, Perth suffers from a major shortage of decent trainers... must be time for me to start studying again, instead of staring at boring hardware all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 I spoke to Kathy this morning (thank God she called or I would still be in bed!) For the time being she said I am doing the right thing so that's reassuring .. I'm going to speak to a few more and see who I like best. Anna: we use a Halti .. I know a lot of people don't agree with them but the check chain wasn't good for us ... Tennis elbow + muscly dog who wants to play with other dogs = very bad time and I didn't want to walk him because I knew my arm would play up. If I can find Bayleys vacc card we will be at Northern Suburbs when it starts up in the New Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna H Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Soniq- Whilst I personally do not like the halti, I do realise they do make things easier for a lot of people. The only reason I did mention that Kathy is a fan of them, was incase you didn't like them yourself and give you a heads up. Kathy is a really nice lady too... but doesn't stuff around so I think you'll like her. But do call the others, and let me know how you go... I'm still looking for training help here in Perth too! (and I bet a lot of other Perth DOLers are as well) We'll be starting back up at Northern Suburbs next year as well... so we'll see you there (I still haven't met you - so I'll look for the boofer head Bailey). I mainly go there for socialisation for Chelsea and am in the late classes, but will come down early and say hi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 Are Northern Suburbs ok with the Halti or do they use check chain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna H Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 They are advocates of Halti's and fabric limited slip collars... They didn't appreciate me rocking up with a prong (which is a limited slip and I had it on inside out - still had to remove it)... and prefer people don't have check collars, if you do bring your dog on one, they will make you swap it for a fabric/leather collar. If you can't find Baileys vaccination card, get the vet to print a copy out for you... once Bailey gets to level2 (wont take long I bet) you can then start agility training with him on Wednesday nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 OK cool .. he is due for his 1 year booster but that will be done beforehand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubmylab Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I've been at Northern Suburbs with Kira too, so will look out for you and Bayley next year. I'm not a fan of halti's either, I want my dog to learn to be good for all situations, not just for when she's wearing a halti. It may be slower going but I reckon it makes for a better dog. Northern Suburbs pretty much give you a different trainer every week. I like that because there's a chance I'll find a trainer whose methods/ideas Kira and I click with, but on the other hand I don't like it because they never get to know my dog. Great people though, and if nothing else Kira has fun when we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snobbybobby Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I'm not a fan of halti's either, I want my dog to learn to be good for all situations, not just for when she's wearing a halti. It may be slower going but I reckon it makes for a better dog. Hi, Good on you! From what I've heard, Northern Suburbs has an excellent reputation. The head trainer gets scores of 198-200 using PURELY POSITIVE methods. I have contact with a dog on a daily basis in the park who wears a prong collar, I'm firmly convinced that, unless the behaviour is dealt with at the dog's level and not for the convenience of the handler, nothing will change whether it be a halti, prong collar or (shutmamouf!) an e-collar!. Until humans recognize dog behaviour from a canine, not primate, point of view - nothing will change! I'd love to be in a situation where dogs ruled the world. I wonder how we as humans would cope. The dog I meet daily has been wearing a prong collar as long as I've known her (4years). She pulls through the discomfort! JMHO Henrynchlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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