voloclydes Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 ok so smart pants me thought wow the bow.... we can do the comando crawl, supported beg, beg (so long as it short) shake hands, drop, fetch, and working on stay. can get him to bow but the butt end falls into the drop. so the question how to get the hind end to hover? we can mantain it for a second, but then flop. would scratching the tail end instead of patting head end give him the hint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vehs Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 moving the treat or target away quickly so he doesn't have time to put his butt down? then gradually increase the time? you could also put a stick near his belly so he doesn't bring it down :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 you could also put a stick near his belly so he doesn't bring it down :lol: I have simply and lightly used my hand to encourage the rear end to stay up, and 'marked' the required position, quickly followed by a 'release word' and a reward. Be ready to 'mark' so that you can do so before the rear end has time to follow down. I've also captured the position by marking and rewarding when the dog is naturally doing a front end stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha bet Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I assume you dog knows how to drop.... therefore it is easy to work the bow...... the dog just needs to see a difference with the way you work the bow One method to try: Start with the dog in a stand position (usually I stand in front of the dog) with a reward in hand bring the dog forward with his nose on the food, perhaps two steps and then angle you hand down slowly back inbetween his front paws. By angling his head down and inbetween his front feet helps to push his bottom back and up in the air - it helps to keep his back legs straight..... Dont worry if he doesnt bend at the elbows straight away but once his head is down ask him to hold for a split second and then bring your hand up and foward to release the dog. then treat. Releasing forward will stop the hindquarter from dropping. Can be a little complicated trying to explain without diagrams. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 If your dog stretches in the bow position, you could start marking your dog when it offers this behaviour. That's how I taught Ruby to take a bow Took a while because I wasn't really serious about teaching it, but soon she clicked what she was doing and then offered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voloclydes Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 thanks for the tips folks... yes he drops quite well. hence i can only get a momentary pause.... the up side is the drop is much better than when i ask for it.... they really like to say ha ha mum fooled ya! he has been doing the long stretch but not very often, but will use it to my advantage would you believe he just did.... so may be all is not lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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