Dog Allergic To Chicken Any Dry Food Reccomendations

[woodbyne]

Hi,

My dalmatian girl has been getting diarhea on and off the last time she got it after eating 2 chicken necks so the vet said no chicken for one month then try her on some so on the weekend i tried her on some optimum chicken flavoured dry food which we had won at a show and sure enough 2 days later diarhea. So no more chicken. Shes ok on Eukanuba which says it has chicken in it but mustn't have as much as the chicken flavoured stuff but i'm wonderin if any one has a cheaper dry food alternative to eukanuba as its rather expensive and we have 5 dogs one other dalmatian who is old and never had a problem with any allergies and my husbands working kelpies who again are not at all sensitive to anything.

My other question is is this heredirty i had applied for a prefix all approved etc but no i have my doubts about breeding i have had dogs for 15 years but never had a litter this was to be my first but don't want other people having pups with this issue. I forgot to ask the vet what she thinks. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated i only want whats right for the breed and also any future puppy owners. After all the hassles with her half of me thinks bugger it don't do it ,desex her and be done with it and next time i want a dog i'll get a pound puppy..... I'm feeling a bit deflated

Thanks

[sas]

My dog is allergic to Chicken, We use either Eukanuba or Pro Plan Salmon for Sensitive skin kibble.

Unfortunately I haven't been able to locate a cheaper kibble without Chicken. I tell you Chicken is in EVERYTHING lol

The most amusing thing is to see a dog food called Beef and to read the ingrediants to see it has every other animal you could imagine in it plus the Beef. With allergic/food intolerant dogs you get used to reading the labels on everything LOL

Although there isn't solid proof there is a common school of though that it is passed on whether it's a weak immune system that is passed on or the allergies itself.

My boys allergies are now popping up in the line he came from and can be traced back to his grandfather who was an import.

I was under the impression Dallies were shockers for bad skin?

I suggest you go on a proper food trial as well as get Blood or Dermal skin testing to see what allergy issues your dogs has because if it has allergies it would be pretty unethical to breed the dog.

Was does yoru Breeder say?

Edited August 26, 2009 by sas

[Sandra777]

Hi,

My dalmatian girl has been getting diarhea on and off the last time she got it after eating 2 chicken necks so the vet said no chicken for one month then try her on some so on the weekend i tried her on some optimum chicken flavoured dry food which we had won at a show and sure enough 2 days later diarhea. So no more chicken. Shes ok on Eukanuba which says it has chicken in it but mustn't have as much as the chicken flavoured stuff but i'm wonderin if any one has a cheaper dry food alternative to eukanuba as its rather expensive and we have 5 dogs one other dalmatian who is old and never had a problem with any allergies and my husbands working kelpies who again are not at all sensitive to anything.

My other question is is this heredirty i had applied for a prefix all approved etc but no i have my doubts about breeding i have had dogs for 15 years but never had a litter this was to be my first but don't want other people having pups with this issue. I forgot to ask the vet what she thinks. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated i only want whats right for the breed and also any future puppy owners. After all the hassles with her half of me thinks bugger it don't do it ,desex her and be done with it and next time i want a dog i'll get a pound puppy..... I'm feeling a bit deflated

Thanks

I would be asking the bitch's breeder about the issue. Allergies often have a genetic component but it might not manifest in the same way - so perhaps an ancestor was allergic to lamb but your bitch is allergic to chicken... You need some researched facts.

Also what ELSE did she have when she had the 2 chicken necks? Had she had chicken necks before? If they were big necks they might have had a lot of fat on them - a lot of dogs don't tolerate fat well, especially if they're more used to dry food. Lots of factors.

As for food - if she tolerates red meat how about a month of boiled rice with ordinary mince meat? Not a complete diet, but won't do any harm for a month.

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Hi,

My dalmatian girl has been getting diarhea on and off the last time she got it after eating 2 chicken necks so the vet said no chicken for one month then try her on some so on the weekend i tried her on some optimum chicken flavoured dry food which we had won at a show and sure enough 2 days later diarhea. So no more chicken. Shes ok on Eukanuba which says it has chicken in it but mustn't have as much as the chicken flavoured stuff but i'm wonderin if any one has a cheaper dry food alternative to eukanuba as its rather expensive and we have 5 dogs one other dalmatian who is old and never had a problem with any allergies and my husbands working kelpies who again are not at all sensitive to anything.

My other question is is this heredirty i had applied for a prefix all approved etc but no i have my doubts about breeding i have had dogs for 15 years but never had a litter this was to be my first but don't want other people having pups with this issue. I forgot to ask the vet what she thinks. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated i only want whats right for the breed and also any future puppy owners. After all the hassles with her half of me thinks bugger it don't do it ,desex her and be done with it and next time i want a dog i'll get a pound puppy..... I'm feeling a bit deflated

Thanks

[Nekhbet]

speak to her breeder - if she was purchased as a breeding bitch then you should HAVE a breedable bitch not one allergic to chicken of all things.

if it were up to me no way would a dog with a food allergy like that be bred from. But that is just my opinion.

THe unfortunate thing with cheap dry foods is they use whatever protein source is available at the time at a good price - hence the low cost. Have you looked into a home made diet for your girl? Buy meat offcuts from wholesale butchers and cheap pet mince and DIY if cost is a factor.

[woodbyne]

Hello,

She was perchased as a show dog with the view to one day breed from her. The breeder thinks i'm mad not to breed her and claims that no of their dogs have ever had any alergies mmmmm....... I'm so glad for opinions as i'm leaning well and truely towards not breeding her but still have the sway of the breeder telling me its fine. The vet told me not to breed her. I have recently found out that the father has skin issues but of course i'm told thats not hereditry.

When she was about 9 months old she had a case of demodex the vet wasn't worried at the time as it was easily cleared up but had mentioned its caused by a compromised immune system and that it "shouldn't" be an issue if they don't reoccur. But i noticed that SAS mentions the immune system so its really looking like no puppies for me....... and what a waste of money applying for the prefix and i don't fancy having to keep paying the extra dogsnsw fees to hold it as i wont get another dog till my old boy crosses to rainbow bridge and that could be another 3 or 4 years hopefully.

She only had Eukanuba when she had the necks and nothing else and this time she had some eukanuba mixed in with the optimum chicken and had been fine for over 2 months on just eukanuba

Keep those food suggestions coming along.

Thanks

[Nekhbet]

mm bad skin in the family and demodex ... I wouldn't breed. Skin allergies are an immune problem, as is demodex and other allergies.

[woodbyne]

Hi,

i agree hadn't even thought about the connection between immune system and the demodex. When i go to a show it seems that almost every da,lmation has this red skin thing on their white coats she gets that if i wash her in anything other than malaseb but of course no breeder will admit to this being a problem. i even once enquired about a stud dog and asked does he have any skin issues the answer was no then i saw him with this red skin or its more pinkish redish tinge to the coat its a bit hard to explain. Why can't people just be honest.... I think i'm too honest to be a breeder even my vet said that.

[woodbyne]

Apologies to any responsible breeders out there

[Dogsfevr]

speak to her breeder - if she was purchased as a breeding bitch then you should HAVE a breedable bitch not one allergic to chicken of all things.

sorry i dont agree with this part,reacting to one food isnt the end of the world & each dog is an individual.My dogs cant stomach beef ,many dogs cant tolerate chicken its very common.

Its like saying if your a parent & you cant eat peanut butter you shouldnt have kids.

The demodex is a whole different ball game ,i have never experienced it but i believe it can come in different forms & certain scenarios can set it off.

We board alot of dallies & pointers who all have red bellies & no food issues but laying on the ground & having fine skin there seem to irritate it especially concrete.

Also Eukanuba has been known to send dogs red .

Eagle pack holistic gives my guys the runs,optium makes them scratch like crazy & lose weight so in reality any food can set a dog off so before considering your breeding doomed make sure you research well.

[poodlefan]

Before jumping to any conclusions, get a full blood panel on your girl.

I'd be very interested in her thyroid levels for a start.

[Sheridan]

Hello,

She was perchased as a show dog with the view to one day breed from her. The breeder thinks i'm mad not to breed her and claims that no of their dogs have ever had any alergies mmmmm....... I'm so glad for opinions as i'm leaning well and truely towards not breeding her but still have the sway of the breeder telling me its fine. The vet told me not to breed her. I have recently found out that the father has skin issues but of course i'm told thats not hereditry.

When she was about 9 months old she had a case of demodex the vet wasn't worried at the time as it was easily cleared up but had mentioned its caused by a compromised immune system and that it "shouldn't" be an issue if they don't reoccur. But i noticed that SAS mentions the immune system so its really looking like no puppies for me....... and what a waste of money applying for the prefix and i don't fancy having to keep paying the extra dogsnsw fees to hold it as i wont get another dog till my old boy crosses to rainbow bridge and that could be another 3 or 4 years hopefully.

She only had Eukanuba when she had the necks and nothing else and this time she had some eukanuba mixed in with the optimum chicken and had been fine for over 2 months on just eukanuba

Keep those food suggestions coming along.

Thanks

This might be the case. My dog moved states and the change in environment brought about tummy issues. He's now on Eagle Pack Holistic Salmon and Anchovy and is thriving.

[Nekhbet]

sorry i dont agree with this part,reacting to one food isnt the end of the world & each dog is an individual.My dogs cant stomach beef ,many dogs cant tolerate chicken its very common.

Its like saying if your a parent & you cant eat peanut butter you shouldnt have kids.

The demodex is a whole different ball game ,i have never experienced it but i believe it can come in different forms & certain scenarios can set it off.

like I said it was only my opinion. But for me a dog that had demodex now has allergy to chicken I wouldnt breed from it at all. There are plenty of dogs all around the world that can be a little hardier when it comes to diet why perpetuate and accept it. Dogs and humans are two separate things and hence not go into it.

I agree with the blood tests, but like I said its just my opinions.

[SparkyTansy]

speak to her breeder - if she was purchased as a breeding bitch then you should HAVE a breedable bitch not one allergic to chicken of all things.

sorry i dont agree with this part,reacting to one food isnt the end of the world & each dog is an individual.My dogs cant stomach beef ,many dogs cant tolerate chicken its very common.

Its like saying if your a parent & you cant eat peanut butter you shouldnt have kids.

The demodex is a whole different ball game ,i have never experienced it but i believe it can come in different forms & certain scenarios can set it off.

We board alot of dallies & pointers who all have red bellies & no food issues but laying on the ground & having fine skin there seem to irritate it especially concrete.

Also Eukanuba has been known to send dogs red .

Eagle pack holistic gives my guys the runs,optium makes them scratch like crazy & lose weight so in reality any food can set a dog off so before considering your breeding doomed make sure you research well.

I tend to agree with settrlvr...

I do have a dog with skin issues - cropped up at an early age with many ear issues etc. Discovered the allergy to chicken at about 6 months but continued to have issues so had him referred to a specialist - he was diagnosed with not only food allergy, but atopy as well (inhalant allergy). My specialist vet basically said that it is unlikely that the food allergy was inherited, but that the atopy was. My breeder refused to believe it at first, claiming that they hadn't had any issues for many years, however when she saw the state he was in she quickly changed her mind. I chose not to breed with him due to not wanting to risk anybody else (or any other dog) go through the same thing... I continued to show him but it was for fun and the intention to breed was never there.

Had he had only the food allergy I would have considered breeding him - there are many dogs out there with food allergies and I tend to lean towards it being environmental influence over genetics.

As for food my boy cannot tolerate any type of meat generally except on occasion lamb and kangaroo (he hates kangaroo) and turkey. He loves fish and is fine with it.

Early in the piece he could handle Advance Turkey and Rice but i later discovered a food called Natural Balance which is all lamb and he does well on this.

He is 7 years old now, and after a long time with desensitisation injections he is basically allergy free except for during the season change (winter to spring). He is still allergic to chicken - how do i know? He ate a whole chicken carcass (stole it!) and 4 days later got a bad ear infection and his usual lumps and bumbs...

He is an English Setter, and like Dalmatians, it's a breed that have been known to suffer from skin issues historically...

Edited August 26, 2009 by SparkyTansy

[poodlefan]

White dogs > skin issues > thyroid issues.. a well established link.

And no, I'd not breed from a dog with a thyroid issue.

[Nekhbet]

He is an English Setter, and like Dalmatians, it's a breed that have been known to suffer from skin issues historically...

OK I will ask a question

if a problem is not genetic then why are breeds 'known' to suffer from certain allergies and immune/skin problems.

[poodlefan]

He is an English Setter, and like Dalmatians, it's a breed that have been known to suffer from skin issues historically...

OK I will ask a question

if a problem is not genetic then why are breeds 'known' to suffer from certain allergies and immune/skin problems.

Of course it's genetic. If a breed is prone to an issue and it occurs at a higher rate than the dog population overall, there is a genetic component whether or not the mode of inheritance has been established.

No way would I be keen to breed white dogs to white dogs where there are thyroid issues in an breed. Maybe they should roll the West Highland White back into the Cairn Terriers

Edited August 26, 2009 by poodlefan

[Nekhbet]

I just want to understand it when people say allergies are not genetic, breed the dog even though it has A, B, C problem and then 'oh it's common in the breed but it's not something that is passed on through genetics'.

Isn't that oxymoronic .... or am I just moronic

there must be a hell of a lot of spontaneous mutations around

Edited August 26, 2009 by Nekhbet

[SparkyTansy]

He is an English Setter, and like Dalmatians, it's a breed that have been known to suffer from skin issues historically...

OK I will ask a question

if a problem is not genetic then why are breeds 'known' to suffer from certain allergies and immune/skin problems.

I am not denying his skin issues are genetic...

I am saying that my vet said that the atopy is genetic, and that the food allergy may not have been...

there are more pink skinned/white dogs with skin issues but they are not usually due to a food allergy...

In fact in the OP's case I would consider like PF said getting blood work and derm skin testing done...

I have also heard that thyroid issues show similar symptoms.

My dog does not have a thyroid issue.

[poodlefan]

I just want to understand it when people say allergies are not genetic, breed the dog even though it has A, B, C problem and then 'oh it's common in the breed but it's not something that is passed on through genetics'.

Isn't that oxymoronic .... or am I just moronic

there must be a hell of a lot of spontaneous mutations around

I think there a lot of heads firmly planted in the sand on many breed health issues. While that continues to occur, shows like the BBC doco will continue to find fuel to flan their flames.