Clyde Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Do you mean of their territory or stock? I'd say stock would need some training (not to chase them etc) but to protect would be instinct which comes with maturity - which is the same for any breed with the drive to protect. Hopefully Lilli will correct me if I'm wrong. Otherwise try the Breed Sub Forums and look for the thread called Livestock Guardians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 kar have you got a pic of Akida :D They have a naturally strong instinct which gets stronger with age, all LGD breeds have different breed traits. I second Clyde's recommendation about going into the breed thread, I can't express the importance of building a good relationship with your breeder as they are the best source of advice with this breed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I have the honor of owning a beautiful 6month old Central Asian Shepherd pup named Akida, she is a dark brown with smokey grey bits in some areas and a white chest. This is a bit of a stupid question, does their guardian instincts come naturally or do they need some training? The instinct to guard should come naturally. Training / raising shows the dog how to direct this behaviour. But the basic instinct to guard is inherent. At 6 months I'd expect CAS to exhibit guarding behaviour. What is it that Akida does or doesn't do? NB: By dark brown I am guessing you mean red??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzza Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Akida likes to chase the chooks, and I am not sure what approach to take? She is fine with the horses, cattle, etc She is more black rather then dark brown but she has reddish tinge in her fur though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) Akida likes to chase the chooks, and I am not sure what approach to take? She is fine with the horses, cattle, etc She is more black rather then dark brown but she has reddish tinge in her fur though. If you purchased Akida from a person selling puppies for $700-$800 and advertised in the trading post/gumtee and a few other online sources a couple of months ago - the puppies were not Central Asian Shepherds. The puppies were Central Asian Shepherd X Maremma or Anatolian. Otherwise, have you discussed your situation with the breeder of Akida? Edited November 14, 2011 by lilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzza Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) I know she is a purebred. Our old pug cross loved to chase and eat chooks, I do believe that is were she learnt it from. How do I get her out of it? Edited November 16, 2011 by Kar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I know she is a purebred. Our old pug cross loved to chase and eat chooks, I do believe that is were she learnt it from. How do I get her out of it? Kazza, your breeder may have had similar issues so they will be the best person to speak to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ams Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I am so drawn to this breed, knowing I will NEVER own one. They are just so magestic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzza Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 (edited) Now that my puppy is all grown up, she doesn't look like a pure bred Central Asian Shepherd at all. The people I got her from had a male Macedonian shepherd, her mother was seemed like a pure bred Central Asian Shepherd so I am wondering if that Macedonian shepherd is my dog's father. She is a fantastic dog, although she chases chickens if they run and is doing a good job guarding the house and the yard. Edited September 29, 2012 by Kazzza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Kazzza can you post a pic of her :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Now that my puppy is all grown up, she doesn't look like a pure bred Central Asian Shepherd at all. The people I got her from had a male Macedonian shepherd, her mother was seemed like a pure bred Central Asian Shepherd so I am wondering if that Macedonian shepherd is my dog's father. She is a fantastic dog, although she chases chickens if they run and is doing a good job guarding the house and the yard. Gotta hate those "told ya so" moments ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzza Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I have put one up as my profile picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzza Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Now that my puppy is all grown up, she doesn't look like a pure bred Central Asian Shepherd at all. The people I got her from had a male Macedonian shepherd, her mother was seemed like a pure bred Central Asian Shepherd so I am wondering if that Macedonian shepherd is my dog's father. She is a fantastic dog, although she chases chickens if they run and is doing a good job guarding the house and the yard. Gotta hate those "told ya so" moments ;) )Hahaha yes! Doesn't matter anyway, she is a quirky dog :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzza Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I would like to one day own an genuine Central Asian Shepherd :) This time I will make sure to go through a proper breeder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzza Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 (edited) Are there any breeders in Victoria? Edited September 29, 2012 by Kazzza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Lilli is in Victoria I am hoping to get another CAO pup when she has a litter in the meantime I am getting one of her anatolian pups in a couple of weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Gorgeous dogs, are they barkers like the maremmas and pyrs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) Gorgeous dogs, are they barkers like the maremmas and pyrs? It's dusk here - and you cannot hear Brasco barking? :laugh: :) Some are barkers some are not, of course it depends on what they are barking at ... CAS are a lot more reactive than maremmas and pyrs. Generally CAS bark and run forward. I guess the things to know about CAS, are they really do mean it when they bark, and they will use physical force to make their point. You will be hard pressed to introduce an adult dog to an adult CAS on the CAS' territory and not see a reaction from the CAS; with some CAS this can be applied to anywhere. CAS also mean it when they get in an altercation, so you have to keep this in mind wrt other dogs. A mature CAS will generally not accept your friends and family, no matter how regularly they visit. Of course, they may be nice as pie while their owner is nearby and have their cutest bear face on, but dont be deceived - according to the CAS you are in their owner's residence by grace only, and this can be removed immediately. A CAS living well in the suburbs is the exception not the norm. Before the FCI tweaked the breed standard to make it more PC, the temperament summary read: active defense. imo that is accurate. Edited October 2, 2012 by lilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakov Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) an article on the Central Asian Shepherd history is published here: http://www.alabaiaustralia.com Edited November 22, 2013 by Wakov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoofnHoof Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Sent you a PM lilli :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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