Sheridan Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) Grumpy woke up at 10.00 and ran outside with Mini. She went off at something so he did, too, which he hasn't done for a couple of days. Now he's back to sleeping. The vet rang at 7.30 am and said, 'Sorry for waking you up' (which he did ... yawn). Blood test results showed nothing in particular. The white blood cell count was at the lower end of the scale but within the range, so nothing in particular there, though it's possible he had the same virus that Mini had. Maybe, maybe not. They just don't know. We went for a walk last night and he was fine on that. No sign of the abnormal behaviour so far, just sleeping. So, whatever caused the original downturn isn't known but he had a very bad reaction to the Tramal. The test will be how he behaves when he gets back in the car, I think, or has something else happen (bath, etc). Just going to have to be careful. He's still sleeping a lot so I may just keep an eye on him for a few days and rest him. Edited August 5, 2009 by Sheridan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Glad he is being more active Hope he will improve each day now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle. Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Could it just be a combination of old age and the cold weather catching up with him? I have a 15yo Lhasa Apso and she sleeps about 22 hours a day when I'm home. She's been sleeping more since the weather turned cold....I think she's just conserving energy. She's healthy enough, just old but it's come on slowly rather than suddenly. With my previous dog, she just got old suddenly and went from being spritely and active to elderly seemingly overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnauzer Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Hi Sheridan, Just caught up with your thread - poor Grumpy. My old boy did appallingly on Tramal, extremely disorriented, completely lost his house training, it was a nightmare. My vet took him straight off it and it did take him some days to recover. He is now on Metacam and is comfortable on it. He sleeps most of the day and night, he is 13. I put him out to toilet and potter around the yard but that is about all he does. Best wishes for Grumpy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 Could it just be a combination of old age and the cold weather catching up with him? I have a 15yo Lhasa Apso and she sleeps about 22 hours a day when I'm home. She's been sleeping more since the weather turned cold....I think she's just conserving energy.She's healthy enough, just old but it's come on slowly rather than suddenly. With my previous dog, she just got old suddenly and went from being spritely and active to elderly seemingly overnight. He doesn't mind the cold, not as much as Mini does. It's certainly old age catching up with him. He's becoming increasingly grumpy, is Grumpy. I had another email from his breeder today who suggested that he'd actually be better off outside more because his brain will be more occupied. We went for a long walk tonight, nearly and hour's worth, and he only dragged his feet as we approached the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 This is very good news (re bloods). It sounds like Mini has been especially considerate of him. Perhaps it was viral and he needs this rest time. Let's hope so. You can't torture him yet with bath!!! Nice to hear he's perking up...... to you three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 Hi Sheridan,Just caught up with your thread - poor Grumpy. My old boy did appallingly on Tramal, extremely disorriented, completely lost his house training, it was a nightmare. My vet took him straight off it and it did take him some days to recover. He is now on Metacam and is comfortable on it. He sleeps most of the day and night, he is 13. I put him out to toilet and potter around the yard but that is about all he does. Best wishes for Grumpy. Hi schnauzer Another black mark for Tramal. What an appalling drug. I don't know if Grumpy would have lost his house training because he didn't make it into the house. He didn't make it out of the car at home until around 14 hours later and that was only because I yanked him out of it. He had no idea who I was and honestly, it was so bad I thought I would have to drive back to the vet and have him pts. Full on evil alien stuff. You're right, an absolute nightmare. I think I'll start a thread on side effects of drugs on dogs, just so people can be aware of them. Would people be interested in a thread like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 This is very good news (re bloods). It sounds like Mini has been especially considerate of him. Perhaps it was viral and he needs this rest time. Let's hope so. You can't torture him yet with bath!!! Nice to hear he's perking up...... to you three. Thanks, wire. Wheaties are such special creatures. I had a wheatie air kiss before with a wiggy wag of his tail. Very nice to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Didn't realize how severe his reaction to Tramal was. My god, the poor dog, no wonder he is taking this time to recover. 14 hour in the car....I would have been totally freaked out. It sounds like they over dosed him....?....accidently? Will make sure mine never gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) We did go to the vet during that time, wire, and he had to be lifted in and out of the car. He was fine (though muzzled both times). He freaked out again when we got home but in all it was around 14 hours in the car. ETA quickly to add that I've read that overdoses can cause those very adverse reactions but a lot of the literature says that it causes 'confusion' and vertigo anyway. Edited August 5, 2009 by Sheridan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 How's Grumpy been today Sheridan? Hope he's getting back to his normal self That nasty drug should be clearing by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 He's good! He stole a pig's ear and harassed me for dinner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 That's fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowgirl Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Glad to hear he's feeling better . Sounds like the treatment was worse than the illness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 Glad to hear he's feeling better . Sounds like the treatment was worse than the illness I don't think I'd have needed to take a week off for a gurgly tummy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 He's good! He stole a pig's ear and harassed me for dinner! YAYYYYYYYYYYYY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) great to hear the good news Edited August 7, 2009 by Daisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 He also slept on the bed with me last night and did his usual Saturday morning thing of standing outside just listening to the neighbourhood sounds. Unlike weekdays where I can't get him outside, he didn't want to come inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 It seems there's a lot of 'grump' left in Mr Grumpy. Nice stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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