Danii Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 (edited) So we took Tyson to the vet for a skin check up as he had major skin issues as a puppy only to be told he also has a mild heart murmur we got Tyson from a breeder with full papers and when we got him home we noticed the skin issues, we tried to contact the breeder and all he said was 'good luck with that' now we know if we contact him about a heart murmur he isn't going to care. Does this mean all his pups might have heart murmurs? IF Tyson was to be bred would this be passed on (is it hereditary?) Tyson was suppose to be bred or used as a stud dog but since we have had him we have found nothing but faults with him so we wont be breeding him but it still sucks to know he has a mild heart murmur. should i be contacting VCA about this breeder? anything that can be done so he stops selling unhealthy dogs? Edited July 27, 2009 by Danii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP* Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 How old is Tyson? Heart murmers are more common than most people realise and will often resolve themselves as the dog matures. In fact in humans up to half of all children have heart murmers. A mild heart murmer is really nothing to worry about unless there is some major underlying heart condition, which the vet would probably have pointed out. If he is young I would get the murmer checked out again when he is breeding age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Apart from the fact that a "heart murmer" covers a lot of things, from serious to totally benign and everything in between - it also depends on the cause of the murmer. If the breed you have is well known for the problem and it is suspected of having a genetic base, then the breeder should be paying close attention to this in their breeding programme. If murmers are not a well known problem in the breed and/or is not suspected of having a genetic base AND your dog developed the murmer after he left the breeder - how is the breeder meant to know there is a problem and how can they be blamed for selling "unhealthy" dogs. I would find out first if the breed is known to have a problem. I would then find out if any mode of inheritance is suspected or known and if there are any genetic or diagnostic checks recommended to be carried out on breeding stock of that breed. Armed with this knowledge I would then seek the advice of a specialist vet for a proper diagnosis - the vast majority of heart murmers have no effect at all on the animal concerned. As for it being inherited by his pups - well that all depends on all of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danii Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 How old is Tyson?Heart murmers are more common than most people realise and will often resolve themselves as the dog matures. In fact in humans up to half of all children have heart murmers. A mild heart murmer is really nothing to worry about unless there is some major underlying heart condition, which the vet would probably have pointed out. If he is young I would get the murmer checked out again when he is breeding age. Tyson is 9-10 months old at the moment. maybe there is still time for it to go away and then scan again near breeding age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 How old is Tyson?Heart murmers are more common than most people realise and will often resolve themselves as the dog matures. In fact in humans up to half of all children have heart murmers. A mild heart murmer is really nothing to worry about unless there is some major underlying heart condition, which the vet would probably have pointed out. If he is young I would get the murmer checked out again when he is breeding age. Tyson is 9-10 months old at the moment. maybe there is still time for it to go away and then scan again near breeding age? But you have already said that he has other problems. If he has other issues, and a heart murmur on top of them, why on earth would you want to breed from him? There are many good quality dogs out there WITHOUT those issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Skin issues are also very much hereditary, so for this reason alone, I would not be breeding him. Not something that's fair to pass onto the owners of his pups, or the pups for that matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Dante's got a slight murmur, his Vet says it's nothing to worry about, they just keep an eye (ear) on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danii Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 Oh... haha...no.... i dont mean we will still breed him, i just mean in general, like when we are to get another dog. We know that with his problems there is no chance we can breed him, but im just asking in general if these problems are hereditary, did they come from the dog that he was bred from, can they be passed on and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 We know that with his problems there is no chance we can breed him, but im just asking in general if these problems are hereditary Depends on the breed. Some breeds definitely have a "problem" with murmers so you've got to assume they have a genetic basis in some form or other. But murmers can occur in any breed so you need to do some research about what is specific to the breed you are interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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