Samoyed

[JonnyT]

I would be wary of the all classifieds add, sounds like a puppy farmer or BYB to me.

That was my suspicion, especially when they are willing to negoetiate the price on what i understand to be below average already :S

[Icemist]

Good Morning,

If I may I'll hijack/bring some life the thread for a moment. (Most of the action seems to be going on in the Japensese Spitz / Sammy thread)

For many years now I have wanted a dog of my own. Though living at home, going through school, work and other commitments I didn't have time or money to look after puppy.

However, now that I am Older and Wiser, Richer (I wish) ;) and recently moved out of home, I've got into the swing of things after the move and now have the opportunity and am ready to bring a puppy into my life.

Over the last few months I've been slowing going through the forums reading up on Samoyeds as much as possible and have my mind set on one.

Regrettably, I didn't sign up to the forums earlier in search for a pup, as I wasn't planning on moving out as early as I have, plus I didn't think it would be this hard to find.

Obviously there are a several breeders apart of this forum and ideally I would purchase a puppy from one that is engaged with the Samoyed community, ofoucrse a registered Ethical breeder. Given the benifit of all the hard work, love and care put in to produce puppies that are healthy and have the best chance of a long lived, happy life.

I've emailed Icemist as I'm aware he is within the region of Canberra, however what has been only a few days seems like a lifetime waiting for a reply.

I'm looking for a male puppy, willing to travel to pick him up, is it a good idea to ship them like a parcel? I'm not exactly sure how that system works :S

The only listing I've found (apart from dogzonline) is http://www.allclassifieds.com.au/ac/display-ad?cid=123247585, has anyone heard of the breeders before?

I would love to hear from anyone that could help me get in contact with breeders with puppies that are ready for a new home or will be ready soon (though I'm not sure how realistic my expectations are.)

Thanks, Jonny

P.S I'll be watching my email like a Hawk =P

Hi Jonny T,

I will be emailing you back tonight, I've just been extremely busy at the moment.

There is currently a litter on the ground right now, but am unsure if she has any puppies available.

I also know of 2 litters that are due this weekend.

Both are from excellent, highly recommended, and long time breders of Samoyeds.

There are also couple of others coming up that I could let you know about as well, depending on how quick you want a puppy.

I will forward you the information tonight.

Rob

[chicko]

hey guys, do you know if there is a samoyed rescue in Perth?

[JonnyT]

There is currently a litter on the ground right now, but am unsure if she has any puppies available.

I also know of 2 litters that are due this weekend.

Both are from excellent, highly recommended, and long time breders of Samoyeds.

There are also couple of others coming up that I could let you know about as well, depending on how quick you want a puppy.

I will forward you the information tonight.

Hey Icemist!

Thanks for the reply!

I'm looking forward to your email.

I'd love to have one within the next week or two, if not yesterday =P. I'm sure I could wait a few weeks for a new litter to be old enough though if nothing else is around.

Thanks, Jonny

[SnoPaws]

hey guys, do you know if there is a samoyed rescue in Perth?

Sorry Chicko I don't know, there is one in NSW and the SCV also does rescue.

JonnyT Snowispa in Victoria have just a litter of all boy puppies.

http://www.snowispasamoyeds.com/

While I understand your excitement to have a puppy NOW sometimes that just isn't realistic and it is wiser to wait for the right puppy from the right breeder.

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Edited March 2, 2012 by gone

[parisandlhoki]

hey guys, do you know if there is a samoyed rescue in Perth?

Chiko, I looked into this option as well.

Winterpaws are a rescue that have dogs in WA, but although their website says they do Sammies, they told me they never have them.

I ended up contacting breeders through DogzOnline and I'm getting a puppy from QLD flown over to me. It sounds scary for the puppy, but I just made sure I picked somewhere with good reviews who will take care of my puppy so he gets to me safely :)

If you definitely want a rescued Samoyed, perhaps have a look interstate and get them flown over? But this is a bit risky, I personally would want to meet a rescue dog before becoming their forever owner.

Although all of that said and done, I am brand new to these forums / Samoyeds :)

[samoyedman]

Thoughts on using a Furminator comb on a samoyed?

I had one years ago and got rid of it because I was told it cut the hair and wasn't suitable for samoyeds. Is this true?

The reason I ask is a pet shop assistant was telling me her friend owns a samoyed and swears by them.

[Bjelkier]

God I am sick of shop assistants telling people this.

Furminators destroy Samoyed coats!

Never ever use one!!!!!

I'd hate to see the condition her dogs coat is in

[samoyedman]

The bane of my life; white fluff everywhere. :laugh:

Lets talk best removal methods?

I have one of those lint remover red felt brushes. I tried the sticky paper roll thingos but they wear out too fast.

Any other ideas?

Gotta love samoyed hair. It gets on and into absolutely every nook and cranny imaginable!

[Bjelkier]

People try to remove it? :laugh:

With three Samoyeds a Lab (whose hair is so much worse to remove) and two cats in one house I've given up trying to stay hair free. It's impossible.

Edited May 26, 2012 by Bjelkier

[samoyedman]

:laugh:

Thats what I thought. Whats a little bit of hair between friends? :D

Was hilarious at the Million Paws Walk seeing fellow Sammy owners (most Ive seen for a few years) and all were covered in white follicles on their clothing.

Yours truly included. :)

[Husammy]

Hi everyone, it's sooooo excited to see a forum here sharing great info. and experience! my partner and I are planning to have a samoyed puppy end of this year, after we move out from the current apartment where pet is not allowed ;(

Though my parents have a chihuwahuwa, this time i m going to have a dog myself, so technically speaking i m a new dog owner, still feel a bit nervous cuz i know it's big responsibility and still need a lot to learn. I have a loooot of questions to ask....

1. we now locate in brisbane,my partner is from sydney. so which responsible breeder do you recommend?

2. we are both busy and will live in or close to city, so might not be able to have a big house with big backyard. The time our puppy spends alone at home may be 7-10 hrs/day, so how could we keep our sammy happy and healthy? we definitely will spend a lot time walking her when we are home.

3. my partner prefer a husky, but it's not practical to have 2 dogs at this stage, so thinking get a cat to make a company for our sammy. Is it a good idea? can these two get along?

4. is it possible to train your sammy poo on a toilet?:p

5. if space is limited, can you keep your sammy indoor even when it grows up to full adult?

6. how to stop your sammy chewing furniture or clothes? my parents used to buy a big chewing bone for the chihuwahuwa, it doesnt work quite well, she still destroyed her own bed....

7. if you have a sammy for a couple of years, then is there any possible disease (like parasite) might affect the baby if you are pregnant? I know some parasite on pets might affect the pregnancy, but wondering if you have your pet for a while, your body should be able to develop immune ability to fight against it....I am not sure about it, and really DO NOT want to give away my sammy if in the future I am pregnant....

Any suggestion or tips are welcome! ;) Thank you! :) :)

[Bjelkier]

Hi everyone, it's sooooo excited to see a forum here sharing great info. and experience! my partner and I are planning to have a samoyed puppy end of this year, after we move out from the current apartment where pet is not allowed ;(

Though my parents have a chihuwahuwa, this time i m going to have a dog myself, so technically speaking i m a new dog owner, still feel a bit nervous cuz i know it's big responsibility and still need a lot to learn. I have a loooot of questions to ask....

1. we now locate in brisbane,my partner is from sydney. so which responsible breeder do you recommend?

2. we are both busy and will live in or close to city, so might not be able to have a big house with big backyard. The time our puppy spends alone at home may be 7-10 hrs/day, so how could we keep our sammy happy and healthy? we definitely will spend a lot time walking her when we are home.

3. my partner prefer a husky, but it's not practical to have 2 dogs at this stage, so thinking get a cat to make a company for our sammy. Is it a good idea? can these two get along?

4. is it possible to train your sammy poo on a toilet?:p

5. if space is limited, can you keep your sammy indoor even when it grows up to full adult?

6. how to stop your sammy chewing furniture or clothes? my parents used to buy a big chewing bone for the chihuwahuwa, it doesnt work quite well, she still destroyed her own bed....

7. if you have a sammy for a couple of years, then is there any possible disease (like parasite) might affect the baby if you are pregnant? I know some parasite on pets might affect the pregnancy, but wondering if you have your pet for a while, your body should be able to develop immune ability to fight against it....I am not sure about it, and really DO NOT want to give away my sammy if in the future I am pregnant....

Any suggestion or tips are welcome! ;) Thank you! :) :)

Hi Husammy

1 - There are very few breeders in QLD, Sunmist and Modeysa are both good but I don't know when they are having puppies next.

2 - With the amount of time you say you will be away the dog will need time outside. Even if you don't have a huge backyard I believe a back yard is important to a Samoyeds health. You shouldn't walk Samoyed puppies a lot while they are young, even though they have a lot of energy, so a lot of free play and running around in a safe environment is best. As well as lots of training.

3 - Although my Samoyeds live with cats they arn't exactly friends. A Samoyed wouldn't need a friend provided you are spending time with the dog, letting it inside and not just leaving it in the back yard to rott.

4 - Ah, not a great idea. Samoyeds a large dogs and the amount of urine and poo that you would have to clean up would be horrible and not a good idea if you're expecting a baby! You need a backyard for the dog to toilet in!

5 - No. Not a good idea. Samoyeds are a working breed and need space and a place to run if they are to grow up fit and healthy. You would have to take your dog out a lot and given the time you mention you will be away it dosn't seem like enough to me.

6 - The way you train any dog not to chew. Training and lots of it. Samoyeds can be very destructive and I know of Samoyeds who have chewed through walls and concrete paths!

7 - If you keep your dog healthy, wormed, vacc'd, flea treated there is nothing the dog can pass on to your baby.

It's wonderful that you're asking a lot of questions about the breed before you get one. I have a few more things for you to think about.

1 - Have you thought about how much time you will be able to spend grooming the dog?

2 - Samoyeds lose a lot of hair when they drop their coat, are you a house proud person who is worried by hair, everywhere?

3 - Will to dog be allowed in the house?

4 - Being a new dog owner are you able to take you're Samoyed to dog training classes? They can be a very difficult breed to train.

From what you have written I would think a smaller breed dog might be more suited to your situation. Samoyeds are working dogs and need an active life style and a lot of attention and you would have to be willing to do a lot of work to make the dog happy and healthy.

Have you looked at smaller breeds like Japanese Spitz, Pomeranian, Maltese, Havanese or a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel?

[Husammy]

Hi Bjelkei, thanks for the reply.

honestly, that's what worries me a lot atm... we might not have enough space for the sammy, so my partner and I did some homework and found another breed a Klee kai (my partner really loves husky), a small version of husky may be another option for us. unfortunately it seems Australia only has one breeder who lives in NSW ... and we were totally surprised that a single puppy costs about $4000....... :eek:

so just like you suggested, we might get a german spitz or jananese spitz... but what bothers me is (i know it sounds a bit funny ), since i will get a sammy in future if not now, isnt it lack of 'variety' if you have a small version of samoyed like german spitz and a real big fluffy samoyed as well? :p

[Bjelkier]

I have 4 Samoyeds so lack of variety has never bothered me.

All the breeds you have listed there (expect the Klee Kai, thats not an ANKC registered breed, I'd be very, very careful about getting one) have very different personalities.

I suggest you go to a dog show and check out the breeds you're interested in a talk to a few owners and breeds to find which dog is the best for you and your family.

[Husammy]

Thanks a lot, Bjelkier! it's really helpful! :) btw, is any post here about german spitz? found one of japanese spitz.... :) :)

[Esky the husky]

Husammy here you go

http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/180160-german-spitz-mittel-klein/

Also the spitz breed thread is a thread for chatting about all the spitz breeds.

Be careful though or you might wind up wanting a Finnish Lapphund :laugh:

http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/137956-spitz-breeds/page__st__61410

[Ellinnet]

Be careful though or you might wind up wanting a Finnish Lapphund :laugh:

[Ruin Maniac]

Hi everyone.

Some of you might have encountered my question thread in Puppy Problems.

Well, after doing a lot of research, speaking with my housemates, students and professionals in my field and with my parents (who are, admittedly, biased, since my mother owned and adored a Sammy herself) I have decided that a sammoyed may be the right dog for me. I've spoken to two breeders, and the one who was happy to answer all of my questions honestly and elaborately, although I understand that the other was probably far too busy to deal with an inquisitive novice like myself, has invited me to meet his dogs. I've researched his facility and prefix and it sounds as if he's a real samoyed enthusiast, has had them for about 35 years, and has produced some champions in his time. He seems incredibly kind and informed, and has admitted that grooming (particularly during shedding time) and keeping an eye on their health involves some know-how, which he's offered to teach me to do.

Honestly, I thought a samoyed would never work for me until I read up on them. For one, I thought they'd never tolerate warm conditions (and my mother's boy lived in the Tasmanian midlands) but I've learnt that, while airconditioning indoors and a cooling mat will be a good idea, that their coats reflect sunlight and they can tolerate cold and heat well (like polar bears - amazing). I've discovered that an adult dog would meet my exercise needs, and that they are extremely people-orientated, so travelling with groups of different people will be alright if I put in the effort to ensure the dog is well socialised in puppyhood. I know that while the coat repels dirt, brushing and bathing is necessary to maintain it and neglecting that and damaging or clipping the coat will ruin the natural sun-protection and insulation the coat provides - so I'll make time every morning to take care of that.

I'm not gone long hours and live in a house with 5 others, and they are all eager to spend time with the dog whenever I'm not home (we have different schedules), but whenever it's possible I plan to take my dog with me wherever I go, as he or she will be joining me at work (to the delight of my current group of student and professional volunteers) and I want the dog to be comfortable going in cars and on public transport, and being surrounded by people.

I did have a few other questions, as while I am admittedly smitten with the dog and the very idea that I may own one, I do want to cover all my bases. I'd e-mail the breeder, but I know that having multiple sources of information is a wise idea and being wise about this *huge* decision is in the best interest of the dog.

What kind of sun protection does the dog need? I know the coat offers good protection, but what about around the face and paws where the coat is thinner? Should I be applying dog sunscreen to these areas during the summer?

Is a cooling coat a stupid idea? Would it just make the dog feel hotter since the coat has its own way of repelling sunlight?

Do they enjoy swimming, or do their heavy coats make them feel vulnerable to sinking in water? I'd love to teach my puppy to swim over the summer as I enjoy it and I thought the water would help to keep the pup cool, but I'd want to make sure it would be a fun experience.

Is it worth investing in one of those cool-air dryers that the groomers use, or would I be better to take the dog to a groomer to help when they shed the woolly undercoat? If taking the dog to the groomer, what should I do to ensure the dog won't be terrified of the dryer? Can I use a no-heat hairdryer to get the puppy used to the sound and sensation?

My dog will be indoors when I'm gone, but is likely to never be alone more than 2-4 hours of any day, as even when I'm gone, others are home. We have a large, fenced in backyard, but I don't want to leave the dog alone there because I know they are clever and intelligent, and since there's a lot of interesting wildlife around, would probably get into mischief. If the dog is alone in the house, it has my room where its belongings and crate will be, with water and airconditioning. Is this an appropriate set up?

All puppies get up to mischief and I've accepted that at least one of my belongings will be sacrificed in the name of teething. What kind of things can I give my pup to distract them and satiate their desire for chewing?

The breeder I'm speaking with has not mentioned anything about the dogs being desexed before they leave (of course, it will be on the limited register, vaccinated, wormed and all those good things) but I have made it very clear in our correspondence that I am going to desex the dog so he may not have felt the need to clarify his terms. What is the general consensus of desexing at a young age (under 6 months) among samoyed breeders? I know that some breeds can grow up abnormally when this operation is conducted too young. And if it is bad for the dog, at what age do I need to get it done? I cannot handle a litter, and I do not want to put a dog at risk by letting it either run after females or be approached by males. Not on.

What about the diet? I've heard they don't eat much for their size, but I've heard they can be finicky. How do you offer your dog variety whilst maintaining a balanced diet?

I'm leaning more towards a male at this point, admittedly, as I'm used to male dogs. But the breeder will be the better judge of which pup has the best temperament for my needs, that I know. So what are the pros and cons of male and female samoyeds?

Which tests should have been carried out on the pups or their parents by the breeder? I believe they're hip and elbow scored? Does anything else need to be done?

I hope I haven't brainfried you all with my questions! :p

Any help you can offer will be appreciated more than I can say. Any input at all.