Erny Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) An understimulated, socially isolated animal prone to self destructive behaviour? Nothing new. Drugged to control him? Also not new. How many "ADD" kids have you seen be reshaped with discipline, boundaries and praise on any current affairs show you care to name. I'm hearing more and more where medication is being turned to with more haste than I would care for. Not just for behaviour ..... but for everything and anything, it seems. I'm not against use of drugs where they will best assist, but we seem to be jumping to the medicine cabinet faster and more frequently. Slightly OT but to give example to what I'm saying : Recent Vet attendance with her dog by someone I know. Dog has a clean injury. Vet prescribes anti-biotics. Friend asks why. Vet's response "to keep you happy". Huh? Another example but behaviour based : Fear aggro. Inside one consult much improved. Previous trainer/behaviourist suggested valium (which is not indicated for aggression anyway). Four lessons in and dog is vastly improved and only slightly reactive (reaction threshold about 1 metre and even then, not much reaction). No drugs. I'm not blowing wind into my own sail - but for this dog the question of drugs didn't even occur to me and you could have knocked me with a feather when I was informed of previous recommendation. Edited July 19, 2009 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 He is just over exuberant and not very well socliaised and not trained in anyway. He jumps up at the cupboard when I am preparing food or making a coffee, he springs up and jumps up to my hands if I am holding anything, he jumps all over me and everything in sight and he doesn't rest for long. As I type he is currently sitting for once very quietly at my feet just looking around. This is a good thread for all those people who think pugs are unhealthy and arnt very active coz they carnt breathe properly I must admit though that I have already discussed elsewhere that this dog is the poorest example of a Pug I have seen in a long while. When it comes to the correct conformation of a Pug, he is far from it. He is tall and lanky with the longest legs I have seen on a Pug ever! His legs are so long, he is like a foal that trips over them all the time. :D He has a concave face and the worst stenotic nares I have seen in a while though. One thing he can do though is run and breathe easily. My husband actually took him for a run today to run out some of his energy and he hardly even panted! Make your own assumptions from that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 I'm thinking flyball might be good for this fellow. He certainly needs something to keep his mind acitve and he is so damn physically active and very fit and agile that perhpas this would suit him? I really don't know a lot about obedience training or flyball though. Does anyone knwo if there are any lists or groups that I could join to speak to people about his potential with this kind of thing. Also, it would be these lists that he would be best advertised on. When the time comes for him to be re-homed, I don't want people wanting to adopt him who are looking for a Pug as this guy is very un-Pug like in so many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 As I've said before, flyball is so arousing that I'm not sure I'd want a dog with self control issues to commence it without some obedience grounding first. That said, ANY dog sport is going to provide a channel for that energy but all of them require focus and control first. He sounds like a "working line" Pug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 As I've said before, flyball is so arousing that I'm not sure I'd want a dog with self control issues to commence it without some obedience grounding first.That said, ANY dog sport is going to provide a channel for that energy but all of them require focus and control first. Thanks. I might see if I can get someone who is involved with this kind of thing to assess him. He obviously needs a heap of intial training, socialisation and control first though as you say. He sounds like a "working line" Pug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) whoops, double post. Edited July 20, 2009 by huski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 He might be a good at agility, once he has some obedience training and his behaviourial problems are all under control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 *off to google agility* I knew there was another one but I couldn't think of it! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarrowfell Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Anne, If you need any help with him just let me know. Happy to take him down here for a while and at least get some basic obedience in so you can then look at rehoming him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Thanks Philippa, I was going to email you and see if you could give me some hints. We might have another daisy here. I have emailed a number of obedience/flyball type groups and I am going to visit one in a couple of Sundays. Last night he was so hyped up it was like he was on speed and I could not wind him down so I crated him. I expected him to carry on big time but he actually remained quiet in the crate all night! I was pretty impressed and relieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 We might have another daisy here. What is it about the name Daisy that usually goes quite well with crazy?? He sounds like he has the potential to be a great dog once you harness all that energy, PRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 We might have another daisy here. What is it about the name Daisy that usually goes quite well with crazy?? He sounds like he has the potential to be a great dog once you harness all that energy, PRS. I really do think he has LOADS of potential Huski. He is just different to what a Pug is and when someone wants a Pug, they usually think of a reasonably calm dog. This guy is super hyper and has the body of a whippet without the deep chest and so he is super agile and energetic, and he has the added bonus of being intelligent. It alos has to be taken into account that he really is still a baby at 9 months and he is learning all the time. The good ting is that he is in with my two who are both just over 7 years and another rescue who is 7.5 years and they are all fairly calm dogs so he will be learning from them too. I have also noticed that he doesn't cock his leg, but he doesn't exactly squat either :laugh He just ever so slightly bends his knees to urinate and just looks like he is standing still for once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarrowfell Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Thanks Philippa, I was going to email you and see if you could give me some hints. We might have another daisy here. The more Pugs in Flyball the better. Am happy to help anyway I can from bringing him down here to just helping if you want to train him up there. He sounds like my kind of Pug - crazy and mad. Just the way I like them. What Flyball club are you heading out to see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 I am dealing with a lady called Maria and they train at Lidcombe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Thanks Philippa, I was going to email you and see if you could give me some hints. We might have another daisy here. The more Pugs in Flyball the better. Am happy to help anyway I can from bringing him down here to just helping if you want to train him up there. He sounds like my kind of Pug - crazy and mad. Just the way I like them. What Flyball club are you heading out to see? I'll call you today Philippa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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