Staranais Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Has anyone got any links to videos, or perhaps can just explain, about how to lure a kick back type stand? I know how to lure a walk-forward type stand, but want to teach a kick back type stand in case we decide to compete in obedience later on. Puppy is only 11 weeks old and is doing really well with luring/marking, so that's the method I'd prefer to stick with rather than lifting her hind quarters up or just waiting around to capture it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hmm.. interesting- i might do some experimenting with my guys to see if i can work it out as i have never lured it before. My temptation would be to guide it the first few times.. or to shape it. Has the pup done any shaping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hmm.. interesting- i might do some experimenting with my guys to see if i can work it out as i have never lured it before. My temptation would be to guide it the first few times.. or to shape it. Has the pup done any shaping? Thanks Cosmolo, be interested to see what you come up with! Nope, she hasn't done any shaping. I'll go there if I have to, but the lightbulb has just come on in the past day or so with luring/targeting and marking, so I want to stick with that for now if I can. Seems like it "should" be an easy thing to lure, and easy to fade the lure from, just can't work out how to do it (and no success on Youtube so far either). Plus I hate shaping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraNik Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) I taught it by putting Jedi up on the grooming table and asking him to sit right on the edge (facing the edge). He had no choice but to kick back Edited July 14, 2009 by TerraNik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Puppy????? More details on that part please! Which breed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Standing or sitting directly in front of the pup blocking forward motion but still using a lure has worked for me. Although I do think it takes a while for the dog to realise exactly what you're after and if you're standing in front of the dog it makes it difficult if you want to guide the dog into position. Sometimes it takes a while for backend awareness to kick in for some dogs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 You can have the dog in a sit next to you and tickle the dogs back foot with either your foot or a pole/stick and you will find that they jump up into a kick back stand. Its best done next to a cupboard to keep them straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAX Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I had it on Youtube how I taught Chill, well actually Sue Hogben taught her and I just followed on. I'll see if I can find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) Puppy????? More details on that part please! Which breed? Sorry, not a stafford baby this time, Shoemonster! A little malinois girl. Thanks very much everyone else for your suggestions. We will experiment and see how we do. Edited July 15, 2009 by Staranais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 ah bugger! Still cute though, just with a pointy nose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAX Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I must of removed it and deleted. I'm sure there would be others on Youtube. Where are the new puppy pics????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 welcome to the dark side mwahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Oooh a Mal! you can't get away that easily without photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 If you want a video I can probably video one and upload it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) If you want a video I can probably video one and upload it. Yes please Ness & PAX, a video would be great! Taking photos of wee Fledge can be difficult, she simply doesn't sit still long enough, most of our recent photo attempts are just an unidentifiable yellow blur... but here are some from a week and a half ago. She's gotten rather larger since then! Edited July 15, 2009 by Staranais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Dawwww she is lovely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Alright there is a bit on this video but it probably doesn't show how I taught it. Starts about 1 minute in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seita Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Ahh I need to teach this too!!! I started asking for a stand from a sit or a drop for fun and in case I ever felt like doing UDX but Ella moves foward a fair bit... this looks much much better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Hmm can I have a brag - I was doing some COP with Kenzie and Ness tonight. Well Kenzie mainly, Ness was on the bed doing it as well so I would occasionally pay her. Any way Kenzie was doing a nice solid kickback stand from a sit with no forward movement. Pretty chuffed. Ness always comes forward . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAX Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 OMG she is sooo cute. We need more photos. My dog Chill has the best kick back stands even if it's me that says so. Lots of other people say so too. I have a new puppy as well, and I cannot lure the KB stand yet, although she is only 14 weeks and not 9 months as Chill was when she was taught the KB stand, so I'm trying not to worry. I am mainly concentrating on free shaping with the new puppy, she is not so great on food yet so we are just playing and trying to teach what we can on toys. I guess a Mal puppy would have the appetite of a horse.......lucky you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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