Head Collars

[Rusky]

I am surprised the orgs who so involve themselves with the control (or, as it stands, the banning) of training equipment that we can or cannot use with our dogs have not stepped in to howl down the rights of anyone selling training equipment from supermarkets. 'They' say they don't like certain tools and their reasoning is supposedly based in the 'welfare' of dogs, yet they allow this to occur without a scrap of a murmur.

Oh. But then they support the head collar as being a 'kind' and 'positive' training tool. So it must be alright then. :) :shakehead:

Why don't they poke their noses in when it really would do some good?

I am going to poke my nose in

[Erny]

I am going to poke my nose in

How so, Rusky?

[helen]

I think poor Colliewood just wanted a comparison,

Edited June 25, 2009 by helen

[Colliewood]

I think poor Colliewood just wanted a comparison,

yep, simply want to learn. I am not experienced enough to justify one way or the other. It is not my place to.

[Erny]

The thing is, Colliewood, where I might say (for example) that a halti's nose strap will fit further away from the dog's eyes than another, this might not be entirely true when you put it on a dog, as the dog's head & neck size and shape can influence that. Generally a halti brand will sit further away from a dog's eyes though. There are so many nuances and influences to speak of. I run the NDTF Head Collar workshop and quite often at the start, students can't comprehend how we could spend 3.5 hours JUST on head collars. Yet every time the session is information packed (we focus on 3 different head collar styles) and I'm usually finding myself running out of time.

[Colliewood]

The thing is, Colliewood, where I might say (for example) that a halti's nose strap will fit further away from the dog's eyes than another, this might not be entirely true when you put it on a dog, as the dog's head & neck size and shape can influence that. Generally a halti brand will sit further away from a dog's eyes though. There are so many nuances and influences to speak of. I run the NDTF Head Collar workshop and quite often at the start, students can't comprehend how we could spend 3.5 hours JUST on head collars. Yet every time the session is information packed (we focus on 3 different head collar styles) and I'm usually finding myself running out of time.

Thanks Erny, sounds like a very professional and informative workshop. One that I am sure would be interesting and of great value to hear. I understand what you are saying in that you cannot learn this sort of stuff in 5 minutes. I am seriously not expecting to.

I am simply starting to learn, not practice, only learn.

[spyda62]

The thing is, Colliewood, where I might say (for example) that a halti's nose strap will fit further away from the dog's eyes than another, this might not be entirely true when you put it on a dog, as the dog's head & neck size and shape can influence that. Generally a halti brand will sit further away from a dog's eyes though. There are so many nuances and influences to speak of. I run the NDTF Head Collar workshop and quite often at the start, students can't comprehend how we could spend 3.5 hours JUST on head collars. Yet every time the session is information packed (we focus on 3 different head collar styles) and I'm usually finding myself running out of time.

I did one of your workshops.

It was really informative and on the strength of what I learnt, I now occaisionally use head collars on some of the dogs at work. Not many, but just some of the dogs that may not otherwise be able to get walked by some people without one.

[Got Spots]

i actually don't mind the pack leader by sporn - there is a good quality collar and a strap that can go over the nose from the collar - it deters my whippet from pulling like a mini-freight train

then once she settles on a walk i can slip off the nose band and just use the collar - if she resorts back despite gentle corrections i can slip it back

nice and padded and she cannot escape

also this is the website;

http://www.sporn.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?...ion&key=SPU

if you want any better pic's i can take some of my whippet wearing it

[all that glitters]

i actually don't mind the pack leader by sporn - there is a good quality collar and a strap that can go over the nose from the collar - it deters my whippet from pulling like a mini-freight train

then once she settles on a walk i can slip off the nose band and just use the collar - if she resorts back despite gentle corrections i can slip it back

nice and padded and she cannot escape

also this is the website;

http://www.sporn.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?...ion&key=SPU

if you want any better pic's i can take some of my whippet wearing it

That does sound quite handy for adult pullers! Hopefully by the time Shylas massive we have walking nicely down pat, or at least a vast improvement lol