Kelly_Louise Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 After Chloe being officially diagnosed in remission of Cushings disease, things have been great. She is really really well. However, it seems last night she wet her bed. The only other time she has done this (from memory) is when she was first diagnosed with Cushings. We are hoping it may have been just because it was raining and she was trying to hold on so she didn't have to get wet - and just couldn't. Strangely, she didn't act weird (whcih she usually does if she has an accident - she usually gets all sooky like she will get into trouble - which she never does). And otherwise, she is still very normal - happy, drinking a normal amount of water etc. But it's not a good sign... I hope she is not coming out of her Cushings remission already. We can only monitor her and wait and see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Carry the positive attitude you have been exhibiting all this while. Enjoy every moment that she is showing her regenerated 'well-ness' and don't worry. She's being monitored via the Vet monthly, isn't she? Hang in there. I'll keep my fingers and all other available limbs crossed for you and her . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loraine Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Chin up lovey. Hopefully she did not want to get wet and held it too long, she may also have a UTI. Might be worth a word with the vet if it happens again. My Coco (RIP baby) wet himself when he was asleep (as if he was so dead to the world that the urge to pee did not wake him up) a couple of times, he we found he had a bit of a kidney problem (a side effect sometimes of Cushing's). Hold fast to the improvements in Chloe and try not to get too down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly_Louise Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) Thanks for the support guys - I appreciate it. Apparently she has had a couple of little incontinence episodes since coming off her meds... but just little dribbles until yesterday's river I am going to talk to the specialist today, let him know of her symptoms. We talked about it at length yesterday (the family), and although it would be disappointing if she was out of remission, having her back on meds again is not the end of the world - and as long as she is not fatally ill with no hope then I really can't complain can I? I guess the big worry is how to continue paying for it all. The Cushings has pretty much tapped us all dry. It's not the medication, I can handle that - it's the frequent testing that's killing us at the moment. At about an extra $300 a test, when trying to get the dosage right it's just all adding up. It weighs on my conscience day and night... I can't keep asking my parents to help - they are pensioners. Sorry, just needed to vent... But anyway, all we can do is keep scraping through - as long as we have Chloe, and she is happy then that's what really matters. Thank you for your well wishes, let's hope it keeps Chloe in her remission and a healthy girl!! Good news is - no accidents last night!! Edited June 22, 2009 by Kelly_Louise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly_Louise Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 Spoke to the specialist - he is not too concerned and seeing that her drinking hasn't increased that it may not be Cushings related. He would really like to keep her off Trilostane for a while longer - simply as her levels were so low (basically zero) before that she was in critical danger and he doesn't want to endanger her. So unless other symptoms start to occur and she becomes out of sorts, he wants to give her adrenals a break and we will continue with the testing at 1 month and see where to go from there. He did warn me that putting her back on meds (if or when that is necessary) is going to be a rocky ride. Strap ourselves in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loraine Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Kl I know only too well how financially draining this disease is. At one time I believed that I was just working for the disease As Chloe's numbers are so low I would try to give her as long a break as possible from the meds (can't always escape the testing tho ) If she become too incontinent, may be you could get some of the bitch panties (for bitches in season) and put them on her at night - yes I am full of silly ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly_Louise Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 No not a silly idea at all - but let's hope it doesn't come to that... I know they can be very helpful, but I can't stand the idea of my girl having to use them - it's like admitting she is old and frail or something... The specialist did say if it got worse (fingers crossed not) that there is a liquid that the normal vet can provide that will tighten up the spinchter (spelling sorry) and should help, otherwise to have her urine tested for infections etc. At this stage, unless it is a frequent occurence we will just monitor her and keep on hoping for the best. Loraine, I also just want to keep her off meds as long as possible - give me a chance to start saving a bit as well as for her own health benefits. It's just wearing me down with the constant worry. I want to be able to follow all the testing etc to make sure she is getting the very best care possible, but my stomach flips everytime the word 'test' is brought up. My heart wrenches... But you see her delightful little smiling face and you know all the stress and worry is worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 KL .... Has your Vet/specialist spoken about "Andrenoplex"? They are tabs that are designed to nourish the adrenal gland. I take them for Chronic Fatigue which I acquired as a result of looooong-term stress in a previous, very demanding business. I have found them to be very helpful. My understanding of them is that they are a holistic measure and they are not designed to 'up' or 'down' the adrenal gland activity, but simply to nourish the gland so that it might function as it should or as well as it can. I'm not sure if they would be helpful in Chloe's situation, but I'm thinking they might be. I do know that the tabs are given to dogs. In fact, I'm not sure if they were first designed for dogs (that's how I first knew of them) and then found as a benefit to humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly_Louise Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) Wow thanks Erny, I will definitely look into them. He hasn't spoken to me about any kind of natural help - although I do find that they do not promote things like that at this centre. I remember when Chloe had her leg ops and I was asking about supplements etc, and that surgeon basically said that they are not really proven to help much but using supplements usually makes us as the owners feel better - or something along that line. I figure, even if it helps a little - then it's worth a try. I was also looking into Robert McDowell's herbal supplements designed for Cushings sufferers - there were a couple of different remedies that had to be given to support adrenal function. I was just a little scared in case it messed things up with her meds at the time. I might speak to him about it - is it something that needs to be prescribed, or can it be bought online or at health shops, etc do you know please? I will give anything that might keep her in remission longer a try Thanks for letting me know!! ETA - I feel for you suffering from Chronic fatigue :D I've read a fair bit about it previously - and it is not a fun thing to suffer from.... Edited June 23, 2009 by Kelly_Louise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) ... is it something that needs to be prescribed, or can it be bought online or at health shops, etc do you know please? Not sure what the stance is for dogs. For me, although I get it through the health food shop, I could only get it if it is prescribed - but that doesn't have to be by a Doctor. My naturopath prescribed it for me. I had to show the Health Food Shop the Naturopath's prescription and that was sufficient for them. ETA - I feel for you suffering from Chronic fatigue I've read a fair bit about it previously - and it is not a fun thing to suffer from.... Thanks KL. I have to respect it, but simultaneously I work to not let it get the better of me. I'm lucky too, as I don't seem to have suffered from it as badly as others. I didn't get mine as the result of a virus either. All the people who I know of who have it have contracted it due to a viral infection their body couldn't deal with, and they are worse than I. I don't personally know of any others who have it as the result of stress, where I literally ran on adrenalin for a long period of time. And of course, we know that adrenalin is meant as a 'quick fix' for the body, not a long term measure. But I'm ok . And the adrenoplex made a huge difference to what I regard as a gradual recovery :D. Good luck - if you do check into it, I'd be interested to know what the opinions are. Try a google on it as well. I can't remember the website where I first read of it for dogs but I know it was through googling that I found it. Edited June 23, 2009 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzy06 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Just wondering how Chloe has been going? no more accidents?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetty Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 All you could do is wait and see. The best of luck for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly_Louise Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) Thanks for asking and the well wishes :rolleyes: So far, there have been no more accidents Hopefully this is a good sign. She is drinking a little more than usual, but nothing excessive. We ensure she is toiletted before going to sleep and early morning (she has her own access to outside but if it's cold or wet she holds on forever - maybe it's her creaky old legs). She will go in for re-testing in another couple of weeks... so we will wait till then for the next 'verdict'. She is well and happy... so I really can't ask for more right now can I? Excitingly, she is coming to meet my other big girl Sashy this weekend... can't wait to have my 2 lovelies together - hope it goes well and they are friends. Edited June 25, 2009 by Kelly_Louise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loraine Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Kelly Louise I have just remembered that Coco used to pee in my laundry, which was half way to his own dog door. I think his leg muscles were too weak to get him all the way there and back to my bed This could be Chloe's problem for sure. I hope she enjoys her meeting with Sashy, be careful, as her muscles will now be weak forever. (I know you will be careful, but hey I am a Mum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly_Louise Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 Thanks for caring Loraine :D - I love the fact you are always there. I always treat Chloe like she is 'frail' (even though she's not) and it's for that reason I have never let them meet as Sash might be a bit too full on for her. But I'd really love them to both have some company sometimes, so we decided to make it not so full on by meeting at the lake, that way I can take Sash back home if it gets too much for Chloe, and we can keep them both on lead and I can control Sash so she doesn't overwhelm ChloBo. Her poor old legs are holding up very well, although I've never really let her do anything too strenuous since her operations as I don't want to put too much pressure on them. I'll just monitor how she goes, if she isn't happy to see Sasha then I'll take Sash home and rejoin the family to just let Chloe enjoy her time at the lake. They certainly won't be running around or off leash as Sash is way too rough. I'd just like them to say hello and have a little walk around the lake. Never fear, Chloe's comfort and health always comes first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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