skuzy Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Hi - this is a fantastic thread.. Some dumb questions from me... 1) Are there any 'must' do training classes for SBT's? 2) Are there any 'must' do socliasing activities 3) I work 9-5 weekdays. Are there any suggestions on what i could do to help manage the pup with this solo time? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Hi guys,I was quoted $2500 for a staffy pup by a breeder in VIC. Is that too much or the right price? Cheers, rhcp_me Generally a pet puppy will cost between $800 & $1200. A "show potential" puppy might be a little more but since no one can guarantee the "show potential" of any 8 week old puppy, the price shouldn't be hugely different. Let me guess - this puppy is blue? Blue IS NOT RARE so please don't be sucked in to paying a premium price for a very common product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhcp_me Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Hi guys,I was quoted $2500 for a staffy pup by a breeder in VIC. Is that too much or the right price? Cheers, rhcp_me Generally a pet puppy will cost between $800 & $1200. A "show potential" puppy might be a little more but since no one can guarantee the "show potential" of any 8 week old puppy, the price shouldn't be hugely different. Let me guess - this puppy is blue? Blue IS NOT RARE so please don't be sucked in to paying a premium price for a very common product. Hi sandra, you are right the puppy is blue. I find thats a little too expensive even if its blue. I will keep looking.. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R00 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Hi - this is a fantastic thread..Some dumb questions from me... 1) Are there any 'must' do training classes for SBT's? 2) Are there any 'must' do socliasing activities 3) I work 9-5 weekdays. Are there any suggestions on what i could do to help manage the pup with this solo time? Thanks in advance! 1/ Triangle of temptation (See top of Puppy thread) and Steve's article on Socialisation (search DOL) 2/ Read above article 3/ Get another one, two is not twice the work and we don't fell guilty if we get stuck away from home at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaz Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 5. What is the general temperament/personality?The breed standard states "Bold, fearless and totally reliable " and that's exactly what a well bred Stafford should be. They are very people orientated and are known as the "nanny dog". Staffords have a myriad of personalities which makes buying from a registered breeder who can match a puppy's personality to your family imperative. Staffords can be clowns, cheeky, down right naughty, high drive, over the top, sooky, happy and everything all rolled into one. It is also important to know that they can be dog aggressive and that many will seek to finish a fight, regardless of who started it. Some line have more "fire" or aggression in them than others, however once again the ethical registered breeder understands this, they can recognise the signs in their pups and place them accordingly. I came into this thread looking for some insights into the personaity of one of my dogs adopted from rescue. He is far from pure, just a mutt really, but there is a fair dollop of Stafford in there. I think the above quote goes a long way towrds answering my questions but I would really appreciate any other insights into his character He is generally good with other dogs and has seen a lot of rescue foster dogs come through here. However he has some issues, particuarly if another dog growls at him or is around the same size and tries to dominate him. Then he shows a degree of agression that is frightening and makes me worry that he could even fight to the death, such is his detemination and blind focus when in a rage, This has only happened a handful of times and I have been there to pull him off. I gather this is not that unusual with this type of breed? I was considering taking him to behaviourist to have him assessed, I'm afraid I'm used to danes who are much dopier and predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skuzy Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Hi - this is a fantastic thread..Some dumb questions from me... 1) Are there any 'must' do training classes for SBT's? 2) Are there any 'must' do socliasing activities 3) I work 9-5 weekdays. Are there any suggestions on what i could do to help manage the pup with this solo time? Thanks in advance! 1/ Triangle of temptation (See top of Puppy thread) and Steve's article on Socialisation (search DOL) 2/ Read above article 3/ Get another one, two is not twice the work and we don't fell guilty if we get stuck away from home at times hi thanks I assume then that anyone who works 9-5 (which would be most people?) would therefore own 2 staffies then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Woofs Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 We work 9-5 so my husband stopped home during the day to give our pup lunch and a little play. He then refilled the kong and swapped some toys over so that there were new things for her to play with. We only did this for 2 weeks though because we had another dog and felt comfortable enough by then for them to be left alone together when we weren't home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Then he shows a degree of agression that is frightening and makes me worry that he could even fight to the death, such is his detemination and blind focus when in a rage, This has only happened a handful of times and I have been there to pull him off. Frankly I am surprised you get this degree of focus from a cross-bred. I wonder if it is because you aren't used to the trait and see it as being much stronger than it really is? Having had Staffords involved in kennel fights I know what you mean (give you a great cardio workout ) and yes, it is quite possible he would continue to fight even when the other dog submits - this is part of the hardwiring of a "fighting" breed and just something you have to accept if you have one. I gather this is not that unusual with this type of breed? I was considering taking him to behaviourist to have him assessed, I'm afraid I'm used to danes who are much dopier and predictable. Your dog is being predictable - if a dog does certain things he responds in certain ways. To me this is predictable! Me, I would be avoiding the situation and not putting him in the situation where he is going to react in this way. Dogs do not all get along and he's telling you which dogs he is not going to get along with. If you do take him to a behaviourist make sure you get a good one - scary the number of "experts" who think all dogs come equipped with the same hardwiring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I assume then that anyone who works 9-5 (which would be most people?) would therefore own 2 staffies then? I disagree with Roo's advice and unless you specifically want two dogs then don't get another one just to keep each other company. There is no guarantee two dogs are going to get along anyway (see the above question ) and two Staffords, even if they have got along for years, can fall out over the stupidest thing and that never ends well, especially if there is no one home. Personally I NEVER leave two dogs out together when I'm not home, they are all separated when we leave the house. So company for each other they may be - but always through a fence or door when "alone" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R00 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) Hi - this is a fantastic thread..Some dumb questions from me... 1) Are there any 'must' do training classes for SBT's? 2) Are there any 'must' do socliasing activities 3) I work 9-5 weekdays. Are there any suggestions on what i could do to help manage the pup with this solo time? Thanks in advance! 1/ Triangle of temptation (See top of Puppy thread) and Steve's article on Socialisation (search DOL) 2/ Read above article 3/ Get another one, two is not twice the work and we don't fell guilty if we get stuck away from home at times hi thanks I assume then that anyone who works 9-5 (which would be most people?) would therefore own 2 staffies then? Most dogs sleep while their owners are at work, providing you spend time with them in the morning and afterwork you should be all good. The other thing to keep in mind is that I believe you shouldn't say hello or goodbye to your dogs when you leave/return so that these don't become ques for the dog to change its behaviour. As a rule I never say Goodbye to the dogs I just walk out the door , close the gate and go about my business. 9-5 is not a long time for a dog to be on their own IMO. Edited August 19, 2009 by Roo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skuzy Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 interesting feedback! - thanks to all who replied, trying to learning more and more about this breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBailey Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Hi guys,I was quoted $2500 for a staffy pup by a breeder in VIC. Is that too much or the right price? Cheers, rhcp_me Generally a pet puppy will cost between $800 & $1200. A "show potential" puppy might be a little more but since no one can guarantee the "show potential" of any 8 week old puppy, the price shouldn't be hugely different. Let me guess - this puppy is blue? Blue IS NOT RARE so please don't be sucked in to paying a premium price for a very common product. Hi sandra, you are right the puppy is blue. I find thats a little too expensive even if its blue. I will keep looking.. thanks when we were looking for a pup we were quoted simmilar to that for a BLue and also for a Black, we waited and now have a very sexy boy that didn't cost us the earth. Colour shouldn't effect price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Another here who doesn't necessarily recommend the "two is better than one" approach. With two you're up for twice the work, twice the expenses, twice the inconvenience when it comes to organising things like holidays etc and quite possibly twice the trouble if they don't get along. To me it's like saying, "hey, have two CHILDREN because they'll keep each other amused". Yeah right, and be like my two youngest who spend most of their time thinking up ways to "off" the other one! How any dog copes when left alone is up to the way it is managed, treated, socialised and the efforts that its human is prepared to go to, to ensure its comfort. And more importantly, how the quality time is spent together when the human is home. NO dog, Stafford or otherwise should be left outside 24/7. They all need social interaction, a chance to be with their pack (even if it is made up with humans), companionship and things to occupy their minds. If your idea of getting a dog is to lock it in a backyard all day, allow it to spend maybe an hour with you at night before you lock it up to go to sleep and then repeat the cycle the next day, then you're probably best off not even getting a dog in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickasyoucan Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Another here who doesn't necessarily recommend the "two is better than one" approach. With two you're up for twice the work, twice the expenses, twice the inconvenience when it comes to organising things like holidays etc and quite possibly twice the trouble if they don't get along. To me it's like saying, "hey, have two CHILDREN because they'll keep each other amused". Yeah right, and be like my two youngest who spend most of their time thinking up ways to "off" the other one! How any dog copes when left alone is up to the way it is managed, treated, socialised and the efforts that its human is prepared to go to, to ensure its comfort. And more importantly, how the quality time is spent together when the human is home. NO dog, Stafford or otherwise should be left outside 24/7. They all need social interaction, a chance to be with their pack (even if it is made up with humans), companionship and things to occupy their minds. If your idea of getting a dog is to lock it in a backyard all day, allow it to spend maybe an hour with you at night before you lock it up to go to sleep and then repeat the cycle the next day, then you're probably best off not even getting a dog in the first place. I fully agree with this. My staffy x rescue is home alone and has been for night on 6 years. However I get up at 6 am every weekday rain, hail or shine and give him 45 minutes of exercise. He is walked by a neighbour for an hour in the arvo and I am around 99.9999% of evenings which involve either a short walk, a game of footy or a bit of basic training. If I am home, he is with me inside or outside wherever I am. I don't consider him to be missing out, in fact when I have had other dogs to stay he tends to sulk. And he doesnt have separation anxiety or get upset when I leave, probably because he is under his blanket on my bed and glad to get his head down after his mornings exercise and breakfast! It probably depends on the individual dog too, a lot of SBT's I have met are more into people than they are into other dogs in that I mean if you offered them the choice of running up to a human for one on one attention or running up to another dog a fair few would choose the human in fact a few think they are human I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBailey Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I just realised that this thread is missing somthing very important. Sexy Staff photos I'd go first but I don't have any on the work computer I just discovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I just realised that this thread is missing somthing very important. Sexy Staff photos I'd go first but I don't have any on the work computer I just discovered. The dogs on page 4 are deeply offended ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickasyoucan Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I just realised that this thread is missing somthing very important. Sexy Staff photos I'd go first but I don't have any on the work computer I just discovered. The dogs on page 4 are deeply offended ;) Well there is SBT 123's Brett's pic in the Stafford forum with his little crown jewels on display, do you mean that kind of sexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBailey Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 OK went back to page 4 to relise that silly work computer just gives and X instead of a photo. will have to look at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye83 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Hi All, I have been thinking about getting a Staffy but have always been a little worried that my backyard would be a bit small for one. The yard is about 30m x 6m and 40% of that would be grass. We also have a one yr old Maltese X Shihtzu. Do you think that sort of space would be adequate for both dogs? Both my partner and I work 9-5 sort of jobs so the dogs would get walked about 30mins every night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 The space would be fine, providing you are prepared to put in the time for exercise, play and training. However there's a big difference in the play styles of the Stafford and a little Toy dog. SBT's usually play hard and fast. As puppies they know few boundaries and I would fear that your Malt cross would be the recipient of some unwanted and over the top play, when you aren't around to supervise the interaction. If you were able to build a run to keep the seperate when you aren't home, it would probably be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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