WreckitWhippet Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 So owning and caring for an animal should be a privilege only offered to the wealthy? Not so much the wealthy, but only for those who can afford it - like anything in life really. I'm sure there'd be tonnes of people out there who'd love to have their own horse, but they don't, because they can't afford the costs. My agistors don't give me a discount on my horses board and feed, they offer a service for those who can afford to use it. That's their price and if I can't afford that weekly cost, then either I shouldn't have a horse, or I need to find somewhere else. Is that not reasonable? Is it fair for someone to take on the responsibility of a pet knowing they can't afford it? I do belive it is a privilege to own a pet and not everyone's given right. Either you can budget for the costs, or you can't - it's really that simple. If the average person owns a pet, what is the most costly vet procedure they could be expected to pay? Would anyone out there know this? They could pay anything! In this day and age with the things that specialists can do, they could pay up to $20k! The average person should have insurance, that way, when something unexpected occurs, money won't be too much of a problem Insurance what a solution. The vets will charge more because you have insurance, the insurance company needs to make a profit. Great for the consumer. Why would a vet charge more becuase you have insurance ? The bill is paid before you lodge your claim with the insurance company and the vets have nothing to do with the claim. The invoices are made out to the owner of the animal and they pay it before seeking reimbursement from who ever their pet is insured with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnauzer Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) So owning and caring for an animal should be a privilege only offered to the wealthy? Not so much the wealthy, but only for those who can afford it - like anything in life really. I'm sure there'd be tonnes of people out there who'd love to have their own horse, but they don't, because they can't afford the costs. My agistors don't give me a discount on my horses board and feed, they offer a service for those who can afford to use it. That's their price and if I can't afford that weekly cost, then either I shouldn't have a horse, or I need to find somewhere else. Is that not reasonable? Is it fair for someone to take on the responsibility of a pet knowing they can't afford it? I do belive it is a privilege to own a pet and not everyone's given right. Either you can budget for the costs, or you can't - it's really that simple. If the average person owns a pet, what is the most costly vet procedure they could be expected to pay? Would anyone out there know this? They could pay anything! In this day and age with the things that specialists can do, they could pay up to $20k! The average person should have insurance, that way, when something unexpected occurs, money won't be too much of a problem Insurance what a solution. The vets will charge more because you have insurance, the insurance company needs to make a profit. Great for the consumer. Are you for real poodle3081? You complain about "mark ups" etc. and when Stormie suggests pet insurance (which many people do have ) you also complain that that now your vet will increase their prices because you have insurance? You seem to have a vendetta against anyone making a profit. I run a business and yes, I do make a profit - should I feel bad about that? No, because it allows me to have three dogs and a nice lifestyle. Edited June 8, 2009 by schnauzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Are you for real poodle3081? You complain about "mark ups" etc. and when Stormie suggests pet insurance (which many people do have ) you also complain that that now your vet will increase their prices because you have insurance? You seem to have a vendetta against anyone making a profit. Looks for the full moon. I have a feeling the poodle runs a grooming buisness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I run a business and yes, I do make a profit - should I feel bad about that? No, because it allows me to have three dogs and a nice lifestyle. Shame on you, Schnauzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zayda_asher Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 So owning and caring for an animal should be a privilege only offered to the wealthy? Not so much the wealthy, but only for those who can afford it - like anything in life really. I'm sure there'd be tonnes of people out there who'd love to have their own horse, but they don't, because they can't afford the costs. My agistors don't give me a discount on my horses board and feed, they offer a service for those who can afford to use it. That's their price and if I can't afford that weekly cost, then either I shouldn't have a horse, or I need to find somewhere else. Is that not reasonable? Is it fair for someone to take on the responsibility of a pet knowing they can't afford it? I do belive it is a privilege to own a pet and not everyone's given right. Either you can budget for the costs, or you can't - it's really that simple. If the average person owns a pet, what is the most costly vet procedure they could be expected to pay? Would anyone out there know this? They could pay anything! In this day and age with the things that specialists can do, they could pay up to $20k! The average person should have insurance, that way, when something unexpected occurs, money won't be too much of a problem Insurance what a solution. The vets will charge more because you have insurance, the insurance company needs to make a profit. Great for the consumer. There really is no pleasing you is there. We don't know of our clients who has insurance. We charge them for what we did and many send the forms away themselves. So no, we don't charge those with insurance more. Paranoid much? Indeed... you can't please some people! Put aside the $25 a pay in a special account for the animals if you don't want to give it to an insurance company... that way you have a slush fund.... also have a credit card that is for the animals for emergencies... that way you are covered... easy as! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodle3081 Posted June 8, 2009 Author Share Posted June 8, 2009 So owning and caring for an animal should be a privilege only offered to the wealthy? Not so much the wealthy, but only for those who can afford it - like anything in life really. I'm sure there'd be tonnes of people out there who'd love to have their own horse, but they don't, because they can't afford the costs. My agistors don't give me a discount on my horses board and feed, they offer a service for those who can afford to use it. That's their price and if I can't afford that weekly cost, then either I shouldn't have a horse, or I need to find somewhere else. Is that not reasonable? Is it fair for someone to take on the responsibility of a pet knowing they can't afford it? I do belive it is a privilege to own a pet and not everyone's given right. Either you can budget for the costs, or you can't - it's really that simple. If the average person owns a pet, what is the most costly vet procedure they could be expected to pay? Would anyone out there know this? They could pay anything! In this day and age with the things that specialists can do, they could pay up to $20k! The average person should have insurance, that way, when something unexpected occurs, money won't be too much of a problem Insurance what a solution. The vets will charge more because you have insurance, the insurance company needs to make a profit. Great for the consumer. There really is no pleasing you is there. We don't know of our clients who has insurance. We charge them for what we did and many send the forms away themselves. So no, we don't charge those with insurance more. Paranoid much? Not paranoid just basic maths. Even if the Vet earns the same the cost to the consumer overall must increase. Otherwise we would have insurance companies out of business. Look at all other insurance models, if it becomes common place there will be a preferred Vets list put out by insurance companies just is it is with car and private health care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicestman77 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Are you for real poodle3081? You complain about "mark ups" etc. and when Stormie suggests pet insurance (which many people do have ) you also complain that that now your vet will increase their prices because you have insurance? You seem to have a vendetta against anyone making a profit. Looks for the full moon. I have a feeling the poodle runs a grooming buisness. Ha Poodle, I thought you baked bread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 So poodle what is your mark up on the shampoo, conditioner, bushes etc that you sell? Do you itemise on your bill the cost of the water, electricity etc that you use? You can not tell me that you do not try the sales ad-on of products to your clients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicestman77 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 So poodle what is your mark up on the shampoo, conditioner, bushes etc that you sell?Do you itemise on your bill the cost of the water, electricity etc that you use? You can not tell me that you do not try the sales ad-on of products to your clients. Whats bread got to do with shampoo, conditioner, bushes etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodle3081 Posted June 8, 2009 Author Share Posted June 8, 2009 Are you for real poodle3081? You complain about "mark ups" etc. and when Stormie suggests pet insurance (which many people do have ) you also complain that that now your vet will increase their prices because you have insurance? You seem to have a vendetta against anyone making a profit. Looks for the full moon. I have a feeling the poodle runs a grooming buisness. Typical response from a few on this forum. You base your argument on feelings not fact. I do not own a grooming business. I have two jobs, a lecturer at a tertiary institution and a company director. Why is this important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodle3081 Posted June 8, 2009 Author Share Posted June 8, 2009 So poodle what is your mark up on the shampoo, conditioner, bushes etc that you sell?Do you itemise on your bill the cost of the water, electricity etc that you use? You can not tell me that you do not try the sales ad-on of products to your clients. I don't own a grooming business. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I have two jobs, a lecturer at a tertiary institution and a company director. Why is this important? Wow. And you baulk at vet fees to keep your animals alive? bravo. Here's a stupid question - if you have friends who are vets - why dont you just ask them what their markup is and to justify it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodle3081 Posted June 8, 2009 Author Share Posted June 8, 2009 I have two jobs, a lecturer at a tertiary institution and a company director. Why is this important? Wow. And you baulk at vet fees to keep your animals alive? bravo. Here's a stupid question - if you have friends who are vets - why dont you just ask them what their markup is and to justify it??? How do you think I know what the mark up is? And if you read all of my replies you note that I do not baulk at the fees. I am happy to pay a higher consultation fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnauzer Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I have two jobs, a lecturer at a tertiary institution and a company director. Why is this important? Wow. And you baulk at vet fees to keep your animals alive? bravo. Here's a stupid question - if you have friends who are vets - why dont you just ask them what their markup is and to justify it??? Hi Raz, If poodle3081 has friends that are vets - problem solved. She can get medication at cost price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I think we'd all do better and that it would be more warranted complaining loudly about the mark-up/fees the banks make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I think we'd all do better and that it would be more warranted complaining loudly about the mark-up/fees the banks make. Nice hijack, Erny. I totally agree. I read all of your replies, Poodie. They were very entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I have two jobs, a lecturer at a tertiary institution and a company director. Why is this important? Wow. And you baulk at vet fees to keep your animals alive? bravo. Here's a stupid question - if you have friends who are vets - why dont you just ask them what their markup is and to justify it??? How do you think I know what the mark up is? And if you read all of my replies you note that I do not baulk at the fees. I am happy to pay a higher consultation fee. Obviously your company would be broke if it was a vet clinic. If you are as educated as you say you are why are you being so ignorant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicestman77 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I have two jobs, a lecturer at a tertiary institution and a company director. Why is this important? Wow. And you baulk at vet fees to keep your animals alive? bravo. Here's a stupid question - if you have friends who are vets - why dont you just ask them what their markup is and to justify it??? How do you think I know what the mark up is? And if you read all of my replies you note that I do not baulk at the fees. I am happy to pay a higher consultation fee. Obviously your company would be broke if it was a vet clinic. If you are as educated as you say you are why are you being so ignorant? Now Now, we are talking about the over priced drug prices, we don't attack each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Nice hijack, Erny. I totally agree. ..... and if the banks brought their fees down, more of us would find the Vet fees (amongst the other countless bills in our lives) more easily affordable!! Problem solv-ed !! Now ...... to convince the bank execs they make so much money that it is obscene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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