Daisy Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Around October last year I had some little rescue puppies here who turned out to have parvo, and both had to be put to sleep Since then I have not let any dog come here unless it has been vaccinated for at least 10 days. Now I am about to get a new puppy of my very own Instead of bringing her home at 10 weeks, I have waited until she has had her second vaccination, and will be bringing her home 2 weeks after that, just to make sure she will be safe from any lingering germs. My dilemma is this: I want to crate train her, and i was going to go out and buy a brand new crate BUT I already have a couple of crates here, however they were used by the puppies that died. Do you think it would be ok to use one of these crates for my new puppy if I thoroughly cleaned it out with undiluted bleach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Bleach or F10 Did I send you a link for well priced crates ? I can't remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Now I am about to get a new puppy of my very own Instead of bringing her home at 10 weeks, I have waited until she has had her second vaccination, and will be bringing her home 2 weeks after that, just to make sure she will be safe from any lingering germs. Daisy, exciting news about the pup! Personally, I don't think you can ever be too paranoid. I would also hunt around for a vet who gives Nobivac vaccines (I would double check this), apparently the Nobivac are fine pretty much straight away rather than the 2 week wait. So puppy can come home earlier. Like I said I would double check, but it is what I was told by someone in the veterinary industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 Did I send you a link for well priced crates ? I can't remember you did, thank you But I do have a couple of perfectly good crates here so am wondering if I really need to go out and buy a new one or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Clean them and sit them out in the sun for a couple of days as well. There would be a bigger risk associated with parvo remaining in the ground, than your crates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I was told by a vet once that Parvo is very long lived and can live in the soil for 10 or more years. Also, I know that vets use a particular type of antiseptic to clean off Parvo as the other disinfectants don't work. Perhaps you could phone your vet and ask him/her just to be on the safe side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Now I am about to get a new puppy of my very own ;) Instead of bringing her home at 10 weeks, I have waited until she has had her second vaccination, and will be bringing her home 2 weeks after that, just to make sure she will be safe from any lingering germs. Daisy, exciting news about the pup! Personally, I don't think you can ever be too paranoid. I would also hunt around for a vet who gives Nobivac vaccines (I would double check this), apparently the Nobivac are fine pretty much straight away rather than the 2 week wait. So puppy can come home earlier. Like I said I would double check, but it is what I was told by someone in the veterinary industry. I think someone from DOL took part in titre testing following the Nobivac and showed to not get immunity until after 2 weeks? Can't remember who it was though, maybe Tess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scales of Justice Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 You can purchase sprays which kill parvovirus - I think one is called Virkon (not sure of the spelling). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 F10 for cleaning. Ring your vet and consult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvsdogs Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Are they plastic or wire crates? I think metal would be ok if you scrubbed all the joins etc with the appropriate disinfectant. Plastic absorbs smells & colours. As said ask your vet, after all they would have dogs/puppies in their waiting rooms with parvo & must clean them properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 metal crates - I spent about an hour yesterday scrubbing it compeletly with undiluted bleach But I have now ordered some Virkon and will be spraying everything with that before puppy comes home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 My veterinary home medication book says 3% or stronger (ie undiluted) bleach and IMPORTANT leave it on for 20 minutes before rinsing off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalteseLuna Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Definitely talk to the vet - I had a similar situation with having a puppy die of Parvo and wanting to get another puppy - I sanitized the whole place with a spray the vet gave me and waited 6+ weeks. My new puppy was absolutely fine and is now nearly 2 years old :p I would definitely look at ways to sanitize the grass as well - though this might be harder it's definitely worth it to make sure no new dog get the disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 If any dog is vaccinated correctly it won't catch parvo. That's why we vaccinate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 That's not the case, Oakway. Vaccination is no guarantee against it. Regardless, a new puppy is generally not fully vaccinated by the time it comes to the new owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 If they are vaccinated correctly they will be. Use the new vaccination protocol and the right vaccine they will be. The hardest problem is getting people to believe it. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) If they are vaccinated correctly they will be. Use the new vaccination protocol and the right vaccine they will be. The hardest problem is getting people to believe it. What do you regard as the "new vaccination protocol" and the "right vaccine" ? Edited June 2, 2009 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigirl Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I personally would buy a new crate for the puppy to use for the first month or so. After that, a crate cleaned within a inch of its life with F10 or similar would be ok i would think. That way you need only purchase a small crate and wont have to fork out as much $$. What kinda puppy you getting Daisy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausy.dog Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 If they are vaccinated correctly they will be. Use the new vaccination protocol and the right vaccine they will be. The hardest problem is getting people to believe it. Nope, there would be no vaccination manufacturer (whether it be for animals or humans) in the world who would guarantee 100% effective cover. A small percentage won't gain immunity from vaccination no matter how closely protocol is followed. Virkon is very good stuff, kills lots of nasties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 If they are vaccinated correctly they will be. Use the new vaccination protocol and the right vaccine they will be. The hardest problem is getting people to believe it. What do you regard as the "new vaccination protocol" and the "right vaccine" ? It's not only to do with vaccination but when to do it and how to prepare for the vaccination. There are many factors which govern the effectiveness of vaccines. Some breeders cause vaccinations not to work by the timing of the shots when given. Did you by any chance attend the lectures given by Dr. Jean Dodd's when she was lecturing here in Australia, because if you did you will understand better than most what I am trying say. Those that attended will know what I am trying to say. I think if I tried to put it into words it would be to long and boring to most. What if I tell what I do and why. Firstly I believe I contributed to the death of one of my dogs by over vaccination. That's how I became interested in vaccination procedure. I now use vaccine that is manufactured in this country. Why, because it has less distance to travel around the world to get to the vet's surgery and to arrive in tip top condition. I am asking the vet to use Nobivac DHP. I now vaccinate at 8 weeks not 6 weeks. All 27 teaching veterinary hospitals in America are teaching 8 weeks not 6 and they can't all be wrong. Speaking to people that have told me of loss of litters that were vaccinated at 6 weeks. Upon asking why they thought they lost there litter. Many gave varied and vivid reasons why. Then I came up with a person who really wanted to know why the pups died of parvo 2 weeks after vaccination with DHP. (This was years ago now) This lady even tested the bitches milk. Yes the pups were still on her. Their in lies the answer to why the pups died. This bitch was producing Anti Bodies. Then the thought was if one can do it, so can others. My puppies now come off the bitch at six weeks and NEVER drink from her again. I vaccinate at 8 weeks when any Anti Bodies would be at their lowest. I use local made vaccine that has less time to travel at the correct temperature (we hope). Again I go back to Jean Dodd's words ...one vaccination before three months and one after. If you are in any doubt titre test. If the dog has Anti bodies (T cells) in it's system they are there for life. The only thing that will kill them is irradiation or death. I have not written the above to be ridiculed as what I have said is fact. What I have written about local vaccine is my thoughts. Yes, the message is getting through and we now hear of far more less deaths in puppies than we used to. Yes, the message is getting through to people not to vaccinate yearly. Yes Mr/Mrs/Miss Vet we are sorry that you are losing money on yearly vaccinations but the health of the animal is more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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