Worming And Booster Vaccination

[Crisovar]

Probably, but best to ask your vet. I don't use the monthly treatments.

I don't understand if i use intraceptor, why do i still have to use the worming product like drontal every 3rd month? Doesn't intraceptor cover the worming?

You dont have to use drontal or any other wormers if you use interceptor coz it treats all gut worms +heartworm

So does that mean that the twice a week worming from day one is not required if the pup was on interceptor to start off with?

Firstly it is every 2 weeks as a general rule not twice weekly.

I would be getting to your Vet to do a faecal analysis if you intend to only worm monthly initially, to rule out the possibility of any worms that may have been missed if the pup has had a worm burden. IMO if that is the case the pup would need fortnightly worming with a product such as Drontal.

[giraffez]

Probably, but best to ask your vet. I don't use the monthly treatments.

I don't understand if i use intraceptor, why do i still have to use the worming product like drontal every 3rd month? Doesn't intraceptor cover the worming?

You dont have to use drontal or any other wormers if you use interceptor coz it treats all gut worms +heartworm

So does that mean that the twice a week worming from day one is not required if the pup was on interceptor to start off with?

Firstly it is every 2 weeks as a general rule not twice weekly.

I would be getting to your Vet to do a faecal analysis if you intend to only worm monthly initially, to rule out the possibility of any worms that may have been missed if the pup has had a worm burden. IMO if that is the case the pup would need fortnightly worming with a product such as Drontal.

Sorry I meant twice every month... (ie every fortnight).

But the doesn't the monthly (intraceptor) protect against all the worms that the fortnightly worming tablets do anyways...so what can be missed?

[Crisovar]

Intestinal wormers kill worms they do not prevent them, with a young puppy they can be constantly reinfecting themselves, 4 weeks between treatments is a long time in the life of a pup. A worm burden untreated for several weeks can impact seriously on your pups health.

[Rebanne]

assuming you are getting your pup at 8weeks and it has just had a monthly dose of intraceptor, you would then use an ordinary wormer at 10 weeks, then the monthly again at 12 weeks. Do not use the monthly tablet every fortnight. Personally I think you are overdoing it. I wormed my pups at 2, 4, 6 and 8 weeks and then again at 12 weeks. I vaccinated with a C3 only at 8 and 12 weeks. Heartworm will be started mid July just before he turns 6 months old. No need to start heartworm preventive before 6 months particularly down south and in winter time.

But really you need to be asking the breeder these questions and making sure you don't do something that would void the contract.

[giraffez]

assuming you are getting your pup at 8weeks and it has just had a monthly dose of intraceptor, you would then use an ordinary wormer at 10 weeks, then the monthly again at 12 weeks. Do not use the monthly tablet every fortnight. Personally I think you are overdoing it. I wormed my pups at 2, 4, 6 and 8 weeks and then again at 12 weeks. I vaccinated with a C3 only at 8 and 12 weeks. Heartworm will be started mid July just before he turns 6 months old. No need to start heartworm preventive before 6 months particularly down south and in winter time.

But really you need to be asking the breeder these questions and making sure you don't do something that would void the contract.

No, not apply the monthly wormer every fortnightly. Just once a month. But instead of the fortnightly wormer (like drontal), the breeder uses intraceptor which I am guessing does the same thing as the ordinary fortnightly wormers + adds heartworms to it - and only applies it once a month. Is this correct?

[becks]

Vaccination protcols can vary on what you believe.

When the first vaccination is given at 6 weeks the pup may still have maternal antibodies that interfere with the vaccination making it less effective.

Yes, this is correct.

Puppies get antibodies from their mum's colostrum. While they last, these protect the pup against infectious diseases, but also interfere with vaccination. Maternal antibody protection is lost between 8 and 12 weeks in most puppies, though it can occasionally be lost as early as 6 weeks, or as late as 16 weeks. It's important to vaccinate the pup at least once after these maternal antibodies are gone, so the pup develops effective immunity from the vaccine. Earlier vaccines are given just in case the pup loses maternal antibody protection sooner, as you don't want your pup to be susceptible to parvo etc for longer than he has to be!

I'm not sure what the C5 and C3 refer to, as I'm in a different country and we don't use that nomenclature here. I'll personally be vaccinating my next pup 2 - 3 times for parvo, distemper and adenovirus, then only every 3 years after that (and only then if the titres are lost). But check with your own vet, they know your local conditions best.

With the new vaccines, these OVER-RIDE the mothers antibodies, this is why they can now be given earlier and have the last vax done at 10 weeks. this is what the Guide Dogs Assoc over here use, so they can get the pups out and socialising at an earlier age.

This is something I asked my vet about when the youngest had vax done.

with my pups, they are wormed at 2 weekly intervals until 3 months old, then every month until 6 months old, then every 3 months. The fortnightly wormers are done with Panacur liquid and then they go onto Drontal (we have no need to use heart worm treatment in the UK)

[dancinbcs]

I worm my puppies fortnightly from 10 days with Drontal until just under 8 weeks than swap to Interceptor monthly from then on. If you are using Interceptor you will not need any other wormers as it covers everything. Make sure you do not use the Interceptor until one month after the breeder has given Sentinal. Even before Interceptor came out I only ever wormed fortnightly to 8 weeks, monthly to 6 months and then three monthly from then on for intestinal worms.

The vaccine routine has always been 6 and then 12 weeks with a further one at 16 weeks sometimes depending on which vaccine is used and how much parvo is around at the time.

I have however heard recently about puppies being vaccinated at 6 then 10 weeks so this must be something new.

Your vet is the best person to advise on current vaccine protocol as it changes from time to time.

[Staranais]

Vaccination protcols can vary on what you believe.

When the first vaccination is given at 6 weeks the pup may still have maternal antibodies that interfere with the vaccination making it less effective.

Yes, this is correct.

Puppies get antibodies from their mum's colostrum. While they last, these protect the pup against infectious diseases, but also interfere with vaccination. Maternal antibody protection is lost between 8 and 12 weeks in most puppies, though it can occasionally be lost as early as 6 weeks, or as late as 16 weeks. It's important to vaccinate the pup at least once after these maternal antibodies are gone, so the pup develops effective immunity from the vaccine. Earlier vaccines are given just in case the pup loses maternal antibody protection sooner, as you don't want your pup to be susceptible to parvo etc for longer than he has to be!

I'm not sure what the C5 and C3 refer to, as I'm in a different country and we don't use that nomenclature here. I'll personally be vaccinating my next pup 2 - 3 times for parvo, distemper and adenovirus, then only every 3 years after that (and only then if the titres are lost). But check with your own vet, they know your local conditions best.

With the new vaccines, these OVER-RIDE the mothers antibodies, this is why they can now be given earlier and have the last vax done at 10 weeks. this is what the Guide Dogs Assoc over here use, so they can get the pups out and socialising at an earlier age.

Which brand & product is that, Becks? I've heard of those vaccines (high titre/low passage) being trialed, but didn't know any were commercially available yet. I'd be very keen to look into them, if you'll post the details please.

[Crisovar]

Vaccination protcols can vary on what you believe.

When the first vaccination is given at 6 weeks the pup may still have maternal antibodies that interfere with the vaccination making it less effective.

Yes, this is correct.

Puppies get antibodies from their mum's colostrum. While they last, these protect the pup against infectious diseases, but also interfere with vaccination. Maternal antibody protection is lost between 8 and 12 weeks in most puppies, though it can occasionally be lost as early as 6 weeks, or as late as 16 weeks. It's important to vaccinate the pup at least once after these maternal antibodies are gone, so the pup develops effective immunity from the vaccine. Earlier vaccines are given just in case the pup loses maternal antibody protection sooner, as you don't want your pup to be susceptible to parvo etc for longer than he has to be!

I'm not sure what the C5 and C3 refer to, as I'm in a different country and we don't use that nomenclature here. I'll personally be vaccinating my next pup 2 - 3 times for parvo, distemper and adenovirus, then only every 3 years after that (and only then if the titres are lost). But check with your own vet, they know your local conditions best.

With the new vaccines, these OVER-RIDE the mothers antibodies, this is why they can now be given earlier and have the last vax done at 10 weeks. this is what the Guide Dogs Assoc over here use, so they can get the pups out and socialising at an earlier age.

Which brand & product is that, Becks? I've heard of those vaccines (high titre/low passage) being trialed, but didn't know any were commercially available yet. I'd be very keen to look into them, if you'll post the details please.

Nobivac are the ones you are wanting.

[Staranais]

Do you mean Nobivac DHP, DHPPi, Puppy DP, & Parvo-C? The most recent product leaflet I could find for those still seems to advise vaccinations against parvo at 6 and 9 weeks if there's any chance of unweaned puppies getting infected, and vaccination against at least parvo, hep, and distemper at 10 or 12 weeks. So that's less repeated vaccines than previous protocols, but they still seem to want the parvo repeated.

Or do you guys have new Nobivac vaccines in Aus that aren't licensed for use in NZ yet? Would be keen to know, since if you have new vax, they'll probably come here soon.

edited to add, here's the label of our most recent Nobivac vaccine: http://www.nzfsa.govt.nz/acvm-register/lab...6257-label1.pdf

Edited May 24, 2009 by Staranais

[giraffez]

with the vacination, my little boy is due for his 2nd puppy shot soon. Should I be getting the C5 or the C6? He doesn't live in a kennel but may be going to obidience school when he is ready. Could he catch kennel coughs from other dogs?