ruthless Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I've been asking people can I photograph their dogs for my portfolio. Someone just asked [in order to butter up the person they were asking on my behalf!] if they'd get the files in return. I said: He can have lo-res files. I don't give out hi-res files. I can arrange one 10x8 print and if he wants any other prints I can get them printed at a place nearby where he'd just pay for them when he picked them up. Is that fair? What would you offer/expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezzyr Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Hi-res files = negatives in my opinion, so NO. I do think it is fair to give them 'something' if they ask, a nice print or photo product? (mind you not all ask or expect it, some are just flattered for their dog to be used). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke W Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I've been asking people can I photograph their dogs for my portfolio. Someone just asked [in order to butter up the person they were asking on my behalf!] if they'd get the files in return. I said: He can have lo-res files. I don't give out hi-res files. I can arrange one 10x8 print and if he wants any other prints I can get them printed at a place nearby where he'd just pay for them when he picked them up. Is that fair? What would you offer/expect? I think it's perfectly reasonable and fair. If the person would agree to these terms - then it's the ideal situation. If they want the high res copies, then I guess it becomes a matter of how much to you want to have that dog in your portfolio. I've given out hi-res copies once or twice before...With a signed contract that says they can be used for private, personal use only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poo d'état Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Ruth, what you've offered sounds very fair. The images are still yours, your work, your copyright. If he wants high res files, he can take them himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthless Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 Ok, thanks, I didn't think of that as an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezzyr Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 To elaborate, I would much prefer to arrange a nice print myself at a pro lab I am familiar with rather than just give away a hi-res file that might be printed on a cheap home printer and look pretty ordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthless Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 If he wants high res files, he can take them himself! He didn't ask, it was just mentioned that maybe if I offered it might work in my favour. The person hasn't even been approached yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kja Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) It's pretty customary to give something to your subject when YOU are asking them to do things for you. High res files are not out of the question as the person is helping you out. And "high res" can mean a lot of things - most people don't really understand. You don't have to give huge files, just make sure they are ready for printing up to something 8x12 ... and say larger prints need extra tlc and can be ordered through you. You might want to specify a number ... say 3 or 10 (or whatever) files suitable for printing. When I've done a session to practice something new or for another reason that is about ME, I give them some images on disk and/or prints - depending on what the value to me is for the shoot. I'd also make sure that I gave them some web ready files with your details (whatever you decide those will be) on them and in the agreement state that these are the ones to be used on FB and emailing and on their own web pages etc. Encourage them to get them out there coz they have your contact details on 'em! Or if you don't want to give files, do the same thing with prints - offer a set number of poses/prints and sizes. I'd think more than one but no more than 10 is reasonable. I'd probably stick with 3 or 5? I'd also make sure that I gave them some web ready files with your details (whatever you decide those will be) on them and in the agreement state that these are the ones to be used on FB and emailing and on their own web pages etc. Encourage them to get them out there coz they have your contact details on 'em! Edited April 9, 2009 by kja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poo d'état Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 If he wants high res files, he can take them himself! He didn't ask, it was just mentioned that maybe if I offered it might work in my favour. The person hasn't even been approached yet! LOL then yep i think an 8x10 sounds fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthless Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 It's pretty customary to give something to your subject when YOU are asking them to do things for you.High res files are not out of the question as the person is helping you out. And "high res" can mean a lot of things - most people don't really understand. You don't have to give huge files, just make sure they are ready for printing up to something 8x12 ... and say larger prints need extra tlc and can be ordered through you. You might want to specify a number ... say 3 or 10 (or whatever) files suitable for printing. When I've done a session to practice something new or for another reason that is about ME, I give them some images on disk and/or prints - depending on what the value to me is for the shoot. I'd also make sure that I gave them some web ready files with your details (whatever you decide those will be) on them and in the agreement state that these are the ones to be used on FB and emailing and on their own web pages etc. Encourage them to get them out there coz they have your contact details on 'em! Or if you don't want to give files, do the same thing with prints - offer a set number of poses/prints and sizes. I'd think more than one but no more than 10 is reasonable. I'd probably stick with 3 or 5? I'd also make sure that I gave them some web ready files with your details (whatever you decide those will be) on them and in the agreement state that these are the ones to be used on FB and emailing and on their own web pages etc. Encourage them to get them out there coz they have your contact details on 'em! Ok, ok, I get it! Hey, you're pretty generous kja! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezzyr Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) Thinking about this more, and based on what I have done in the past, I think I would be offering them some nicely finished prints and some web versions for their personal use. A couple of freebies or if they want a bunch, do a "deal" with them. Edited April 9, 2009 by chezzyr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kja Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 LOL clearly I suck at cut & paste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocco Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I think I have to agree. No hi-res files but a nice print and web viewing file of the photo, otherwise find another dog....... At the end of the day they are getting your time for free!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) I gave web-sized files for their own personal use. More people seem to want that lately than actual printed files half the time! ETA - just be careful you don't ask someone with the attitude that it's THEIR dog so they deserve to earn some money the sales of your own photos! I hate that attitude - sure you own the dog, but it's MY work. Edited April 9, 2009 by Tess32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam&Saki Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Standard TFP (time for prints) agreement = agreed upon number of web res files with photographers copyright on them for non-commercial use only, and agreement to provide any prints requested at cost price. This is how it works with human models updating their portfolio, anyhoo x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripley Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I've given high res files on a provided memory stick. But this was a friend, it was my first time photographing dogs and I was very new to photography. Agree with chezzyr re the home printer thing though, I saw what one of mine looked like off a home printer compared to what it looked like when I had it printed at a lab - nice green colour cast and not sharp. Argh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubiton Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 From a professional point of view I agree with chezzyr's suggestions. If its a friend for a project then sure share the files but if you are acting in a professional situation/purpose would only offer a 8x12 print or similar certainly not hi res image files. Depends on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthless Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 Thanks everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poocow Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Can't wait to see your portfolio Ruth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthless Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 At the rate I'm going you'll be waiting a while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now