joelle Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 hey all, just a whinge really..... my BIL purchased a labrador puppy a few weeks ago. They have waited 18 months for the litter so you would think theyve had plenty of time........ Took my kids down to see puppy the other day and they (adults) were encouraging the pup to chase and nip my 6 yr old, laughing and encouraging him to run more . My boy soon stopped when I reminded him of the etiquette around new puppies (stay calm, rewards calm behaviour eg) I think the adults thought I was a spoil sport!. Then the pup weed on the mat (duh..he had been playing!), BIL got the dog and promptly shouted and rubbed his nose in the puddle. I was mortified but he is adamant its the only way to teach a pup. i feel so sorry for the pup, BIL is the kind of person who 'knows best'. They have a 6 m old baby in the house and a 3 months old lab, I can see disaster with a toddler and energetic pup very soon.....Guess Id better be on hand when the poor dog has to be rehomed vent over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I think those icons sum it up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pandii Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Dont you just want to slap family sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelle Posted April 1, 2009 Author Share Posted April 1, 2009 Forgot to mention, he refused my offer of loaning a crate, "You dont put dogs in cages' I guess everyone has their opinion, but It hought it would be ideal taking into account the crawling, prob soon to be walking toddler in the home too...time out for both of them - hell i would even put the baby in there................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumbeat Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Forgot to mention, he refused my offer of loaning a crate, "You dont put dogs in cages' But it's OK to rub their nose in pee and poo - yeah right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboyz Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Perhaps you could buy them a puppy training book that offers sound advice as a welcome puppy present! You could write on the inside front cover the contact numbers of local puppy training/dog obedience clubs in their local area. When they start having issues, they may actually decide to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markman Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 really is a shame, as my mum talks about our old lab weekly and would love another one, but with my addition to the family we have 2 dogs already. Really gets me going all the people who get pups without bringing it up properly when i waited for so long for another dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonlady264 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) Humans in general still manage to surprise me every day with how bloody stupid they are. My only conclusion is some people should not own animals EVER. Edited April 8, 2009 by dragonlady264 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappiemum Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 maybe buy him a copy of the Ceaser Milan book - if its a bloke thing, he may listen to the advice of an dog "expert" whose a bloke too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Tell him you know this great online dog training forum where he'll get heaps of helpful advice on puppy training. And send him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozthepup Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 maybe buy him a copy of the Ceaser Milan book - if its a bloke thing, he may listen to the advice of an dog "expert" whose a bloke too.... Oh dear, a recipe for disaster for sure. Would it be too forward to print out a couple of the threads here on lab pups biting / being mouthy ??! Before they know it they won't be able to stop and the little one will be on the wrong end of it. I agree with this Ceasar Milan idea - neither my OH nor me had owned pups before we got our little one last year but because I am such a research freak I got online to learn all the 'right' things. I bought OH Cesar Milan book for Xmas and he LOVED it. He was able to put into practice a few things and that knowledge made him feel great when he saw it in action. In fact, if there's a present opportunitiy ahead (eg birthday, with an easter egg ) - Milan is coming to Australia in June, maybe some tickets to that ? I'm not sure if there's a Q&A session but hearing it from the experts might be better. Is puppy school something they've heard of / thought about ? Maybe you could find the local puppy school for them ... and say that your kids love the lab so much, wondering if you could take your kids along because it's such a fun thing watching all the babies play together and rumble in the socialisation bits. In the 'serious' bits, maybe the pup nips and the instructor is there; or you can ask the instructor 'dumb' questions that might make the BIL hear some sense. Can you tell your sister (or whoever is the immediate family connection) to try and get the message through ? It's always hard with family that's for sure ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 My only conclusion is some people should not own animals EVER. And should have a licence to have kids... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Sounds like another owner contributing to giving Labs a bad rap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvsdogs Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Poor, poor, puppy. Another child bitten by a dog, & dog pts waiting to happen. He'll wonder why the pup does his business behind the lounge & be too afraid to do it in sight of bil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelle Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 I have informed them of all the local puppy schools and the invaluable info that I gained from them. I have purchased the Cesar Milan book for myself and told them about him, they say they watch him on TV so they know it.... What amazes me is that he is 50 odd now, has had lots of dogs, (not many lasted the full lifespan I might add, most were rehomed ) he has known this little one was coming for 18 months, has chosen the breeder, obviously said all the right things to the breeder to convince them that he knows at least the basics, one would assume? SO why not continue to do the right thing and take him to puppy school, crate him, just basically do the right thing Also, just as an extra, He is scared of my Ellie as he says she is "one of them pit bull things" Poor dog. I feel sorry for him, but also the baby who will not get to experience growing up with a lab as I did because I forsee trouble....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Maybe you could challenge him to prove what he knows is still current. Ask him to look on the net and identify a credible current website that recommends rubbing puppy's noses in accidents... he won't find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labsrule Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 And yet another of my beloved breed ends up in the hands of a jerk poor pup As this "know it all" will not listen to you, maybe you could find out discreetly who the breeder of the pup is and contact them and ask them to get in contact with BIL to do a "follow-up" on how the pup is going, and if there are any issues they could help with and to run through a list of "how to's" with your BIL and to do it in such a way that your BIL won't know the Breeder has been contacted. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelle Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 And yet another of my beloved breed ends up in the hands of a jerk poor pup As this "know it all" will not listen to you, maybe you could find out discreetly who the breeder of the pup is and contact them and ask them to get in contact with BIL to do a "follow-up" on how the pup is going, and if there are any issues they could help with and to run through a list of "how to's" with your BIL and to do it in such a way that your BIL won't know the Breeder has been contacted. I like this idea and it is achievable He is a gorgeous pup. big and healthy, beautiful shiny eyes and coat etc, appears to be well bred and by all accounts, he is from good stock, so Ill see what I can find out. Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelle Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 good news, the breeder randomly rang this week, is coming to see pup next week mas part of their after sdale and continuing support of their pups (sounds sensible) . I saw him again y'day, seemed a bit better with him , although i 'played' and offered cheese to lure into sit and drop., (a sort of unplanned role modelling session lol). there is hope for the boy, and they do appear to love him to bits so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labsrule Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 good news, the breeder randomly rang this week, is coming to see pup next week mas part of their after sdale and continuing support of their pups (sounds sensible) . I saw him again y'day, seemed a bit better with him , although i 'played' and offered cheese to lure into sit and drop., (a sort of unplanned role modelling session lol). there is hope for the boy, and they do appear to love him to bits so :p Great news Perfect timing and fantastic that the Breeder is personally visiting their pup in it's new home as part of their ongoing support I'm sure your BIL won't act the "know it all" around the Breeder :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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